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Jesus’ Journey in India: Interview with Dr. Steven Hairfield - P2/2
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Welcome,
gracious viewers.
Today, we will present
the last of a 2-part-series
featuring an interview
with Dr. Steven Hairfield,
a distinguished
American monk,
Zen priest, and author.
As a young soldier
in Âu Lạc (Vietnam),
Mr. Hairfield went to a
Buddhist Zen Monastery,
where he heard of
a prophet from the west
named Issa
who had lived in India.
Issa was the Hindi name
for Jesus.
After studying
in the United States
in religion, theology,
and metaphysics,
Dr. Hairfield followed
his inner calling
to journey to India
as a monk.
There, his teachers aided
him in learning about
the enlightened Master
Jesus Christ
unlike most people
could ever imagine.
The only reason they had me
in the Hemis Monastery
in Ladakh (in India)
was for that purpose,
to find out
who Issa (Jesus) was,
and then to read
what he was studying,
and then my teachers
made sure that I studied
every single thing
that he did.
I shared with you
how my teachers
smuggled me into Tibet,
and that was to go into
another monastery
called the Holy Cross,
which is deep
in the Himalayas itself
and it’s actually
built into a mountain.
And that’s where I read
the second series of
the scrolls on Issa again.
So there are
only two monasteries
that I know
those documents are in,
and I’m not even certain
they’re still in those two
because they move them.
(Move them
to protect them?)
Absolutely.
Through his privileged
access to secret documents
in India about Jesus,
Dr. Hairfield discovered
many details
about who Jesus was, and
what he was teaching.
Jesus was an Essene.
One of my hobbies
is collecting Bibles.
The oldest one I have
is 1805 and it’s
in awesome condition.
But you read
an older Bible and
you read a newer one
and there are
huge blatant differences.
In the older ones,
it said Jesus would
retire to Mount Carmel;
in the newer Bibles
it said he would
go up on the mountain.
Where’s mountain Carmel?
That’s where they found
the Dead Sea Scrolls,
that was the home
of the Essenes.
Mary, his mother, was
a master in the Essenes,
and she was a leader.
The second thing is:
The older Bibles
don’t say that
Joseph was a carpenter.
What it says is, Joseph
was a master of the craft.
He was an Essene,
he was an alchemist.
So what does that
make Christ? An Essene.
So he was already
in the Essene
mystery schools – at birth.
And then
when they went to Egypt,
they went to Heliopolis,
which was
the mystery schools
in Egypt.
And then when he left there,
it was back into Israel
where at the age of 13,
Joseph of Arimathea
took him into India for
his “Masters and PhD,”
so to speak.
So he would become
a person of
great accomplishment,
understanding that he
was a great soul anyway.
Christ studied
with the Nath yogis.
Nath yogis are really
mysterious people.
I was out in the field.
I was bending over,
planting rice this time.
All of a sudden a shadow
was cast in front of me,
and I looked up and
there was this scraggly,
scrungy, dirty little old man,
and he looked at me
and said,
"You're an American."
And I went, “Yes.”
And he spat on the ground
and he said,
"You're not worthy,"
and he walked away.
Several days later,
he returned,
and he, same thing.
He looked at me and said,
"I am told you wish
to learn the Nath sutras."
And I said yes.
And he goes,
"You're an American.
You're not worthy.
You do not have
the patience."
Four or five times
that happened,
and on the last time,
he came up
and looked at me
and smiled, and he said,
"You're worthy."
Because
I never got upset at it.
I just accepted what
he was doing and saying.
So I spent about
two months with this man.
And that's where I learned
about these sutras.
In the Gospels
of the Bible,
Jesus is described
as having spent 40 days
in the desert or wilderness,
where he was tested by
the temptations of Satan.
Dr. Hairfield explains
that Jesus was meditating
at this time to complete
his self-mastery.
He had to rustle
with his mind through
the idea of temptation.
Imagine me looking at you
and saying, “Okay,
I’m about to gift you
this power, where
nothing can overcome it.
You have absolute power
over everything.”
What’s your ego
going to do?
(Woohoo!) Exactly!
So in other words,
it was about
cleansing his own mind.
It was his final exam.
That’s the idea
of the temptation.
And by the way,
the word “Satan”
in ancient Sanskrit
out of the Vedas
is “the ego.”
The ego is
the most powerful thing
that we have and
you have to harness it.
But once it's contained
and transformed,
the Divine within awakens.
He had the knowledge
already, and there was
that one last hurdle,
and he overcame it.
Dr. Hairfield, many think
that Jesus was a vegetarian,
what’s your take on that?
I have no doubt or
no question that he was.
And if you want
I’ll give you a light idea
as to why.
The heavier the food,
the heavier the body.
When we look at our teeth,
we weren’t made
to be carnivores,
we are vegetarians.
We were supposed
to eat vegetables.
But he literally was that.
He put nothing in his body
that created any weight
or heaviness or
would hamper his energy
in any way.
And that’s easy to tell.
When you eat a meal –
if you feel energized,
that’s what you should eat.
If you eat a meal
and you feel heavy,
that’s foods
that you should not eat.
So yes, he was absolutely
vegetarian, no question.
After we return,
Dr. Hairfield
will speak more about
the fascinating aspects of
Jesus’ life and teachings,
and how they apply
in our own lives today.
Please stay tuned
to Supreme Master
Television.
Welcome back
to our interview
with American monk,
Zen priest and author
Dr. Steven Hairfield
as he elaborates on
the metaphysical meaning
of enlightened Master
Jesus’ teachings.
According to Dr. Hairfield,
Jesus and his companions
had journeyed to India to
study the ancient spiritual
teachings and practice
to reach enlightenment.
He wanted
to understand all aspects
of all belief systems.
And, out of all teachings,
there were two
that had no dogma.
One, of course,
is the Buddha sutras.
Actually, three.
The Krishna (philosophies),
and the Vedas.
The Vedic texts are
the oldest known
philosophical text
about life.
And the Brahmins,
the Jains, and even
the Buddha sutras,
to an extent, and even
the Krishna philosophies,
to an extent,
all originate out of that one.
Even the biblical texts
actually originate in
some fashion or another,
out of that text.
Just like the Truth seekers
in Jesus’ time,
Dr. Hairfield himself
had gone to India in search
of his True Divine Self.
It’s the simple things
that are always
the most powerful.
And that’s the very thing
that Christ himself taught.
Christ says it
in two places.
First he says,
“To enter the Kingdom
you must have
the mind of a child.”
The second time he says it,
he says,
“To enter the Kingdom
you must have
the innocence of a child.”
An innocent childish mind
sees simplicity very easily.
And we can invoke that
even at our age.
And can you elaborate
on how we find
the Kingdom within?
Christ said, first,
in the Book of Luke that
“you look here
and you look there for
the Kingdom of Heaven,
yet you do not look within.”
Alright.
We also know according
to the biblical texts
that God lives in Heaven.
Well,
if the Kingdom of Heaven
is within you
and God is in Heaven –
where does that put God?
(Within you.)
So when one wants
to find that Kingdom,
you begin through
the idea of meditation:
“Be still and know.”
One of my teachers
one day looked at me
and he said, “Young man,
do you like yourself?”
And I said “No, I don’t.”
And he said “Wait here,”
and he walked away.
And he came back and
he had, I would suppose,
it was like a mirror out
of a women’s compact,
and he handed it to me
and he said,
“Take this with you
and sit down
and look at that mirror
and tell yourself
that you love you.”
And he said, “When
you’ve accomplished that,
return my mirror.”
I went back to him
about 30, 45 days later,
and I looked at him
and said,
“Master I cannot do this.”
And he said,
“Tell me your experience.”
And I shared with him
that every time
I made that phrase,
I heard in my mind
all the reasons why I was
useless, was no good,
it was everything
negative about me.
And he looked at me
and he said, “No, you
have succeeded, Steven.”
And I said “How?”
He said, “Now you know
two things that
you didn’t know before.”
He said, “One,
you know your path.
Your path is through
that forest of every one
of those things, your ego,
which is the second thing
you now recognize.”
Because every time
I said that,
it was my ego telling me
why I didn’t like me and
why I couldn’t not accept me.
And then he simply said,
“Take one of those
at a time, not all of them.
Just take one at a time,
until it no longer exists.”
And it took
a quite a bit of time.
But none of those things
go through my mind
anymore.
There’s the Heaven within.
Is there anything else
that you might like to
share with our viewers?
If you’re really want
to light up the world,
then open yourself
to the truth
of your own nature,
to the truth of
your own Divine being.
Bring that forth;
bring that forth
and give it to all people
because if you can do that
you’ve continued
the lineage that was set
forth millennia ago and
by so many great Masters.
After all,
the Christ himself did say,
“Seek first the Kingdom
and then all else
is given you.”
And to think that
we can have anything
that we want, anything,
by finding that place
within us first.
Then you can
change the world.
Thank you Dr. Hairfield.
(My pleasure.)
Our appreciation,
Dr. Hairfield for sharing
your candid knowledge
about Master Jesus
as well as your own
special experience
in India.
May we always remember
the timeless wisdom
of the great Masters
and seek first the
Kingdom of God within.
To our viewers, thank you
for joining us today.
Please stay tuned
to Supreme Master
Television
for Our Noble Lineage,
right after
Noteworthy News.
May Heaven’s light
guide you, always.
Dr. Steven Hairfield’s
book discussing
today’s topics, titled
“A Metaphysical
Interpretation
of the Bible,”
is available at
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