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STOP ANIMAL CRUELTY
The Unconscionable Cruelty Behind Meat: An Interview with Dr. Jeffrey Masson
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The images
in the following program
are very sensitive
and may be
as disturbing to viewers
as they were to us.
However,
we have to show the truth
about cruelty to animals.
This is
the Stop Animal Cruelty
series on
Supreme Master Television.
On today's program
we feature an interview
with an acclaimed author
from the United States,
Dr. Jeffrey Masson.
After many years
of teaching and working
in the field of
psychoanalysis,
Dr. Masson began studying
the emotional lives
of animals in the 1990s.
Over the years
he has written nine books,
including the
international best sellers,
When Elephants Weep
and Dogs Never Lie
About Love.
In his
recently published book,
The Face on Your Plate,
he explains
how our food choices
profoundly affect animals,
our health and our planet.
Jeffrey Masson now
shares how his research
led him to change
his diet and
adopt a vegan lifestyle,
free of animal products.
I think there are
very good reasons
to stop eating
any animal product.
I would go a bit further
than vegetarianism
because I remember
many years ago,
I met Cesar Chavez,
a wonderful man,
and said to him
that we had something
in common.
We are both vegetarian.
And he said, “But do you
eat eggs and milk?”
And I said, “Sure.”
He said, “Well, you’re
causing more suffering
by doing that than if you
were to just eat meat.”
It stayed in the back
of my mind and now
I realize it’s because
he was visiting
many of these farms
where chickens are kept
and ducks are kept
and of course
dairy and cattle are kept.
And he saw the conditions,
not only of the workers
but of the animals
themselves.
And he was a man
of great empathy
and compassion.
And he realized,
"This is wrong."
I had to actually see it
with my own eyes.
I had to visit.
It wasn’t enough
for somebody to tell me
or to read about it.
I had to actually see
what kind of life
dairy cows live.
And the minute I saw that,
I realized
this cannot be right.
There is something
terribly wrong with
inflicting this kind of a life
on another
sentient living being.
Bovines are intelligent
and sensitive,
with complex inner lives.
Confining a cow
24-hours a day,
7-days a week
in an extremely small,
dark stall, forcibly
keeping her pregnant
for much of her life
until she is slaughtered,
and dragging away
her baby calf
when he or she is born,
imposes
unconscionable cruelty
to this noble animal.
Most of us simply
don’t want to know about
the horrific conditions
under which
these animals live.
People don’t realize
that when a calf is born
in a dairy farm, she is
immediately separated
from her mother.
She doesn’t
get to drink the milk
that’s meant for her.
And you can hear them
calling each other
sometimes for weeks,
or even months.
The male calves,
what happens to them
on a dairy farm?
They’re of no use.
One or two are kept
to impregnate the cows.
The others are slaughtered.
They’re used for veal.
So they live under these
horrendous conditions
for a few weeks
or a few months at most,
and then
they’re slaughtered.
So if we know this,
if we bother
to inform ourselves,
most of us would not
consent to eat meat.
If we had all the
information we needed,
most of us would never
want to touch an animal
who's been killed for us
ever again.
In hatcheries,
thousands upon thousands
of hens are kept in
massive windowless sheds,
row on row, crammed
into utterly filthy cages.
The helpless birds
on the bottom
are covered with feces
from the defecating hens
stacked above them
and the air is so foul
with ammonia
that breathing is difficult.
Male chicks that hatch
have no value to
the egg or meat industry
as they cannot
produce eggs and
do not grow fast enough
to be murdered for meat.
So what happens to them?
On chicken farms where
they’re laying eggs,
when they have chickens
that are born –
half are female,
half are male.
What do they do
with the male?
They macerate them!
They put them in
these giant machines that
simply crush them alive!
How could anybody do that?
What about eating eggs
labeled “free range”
or “organic” from hens
kept under so-called
“humane” conditions?
“Free range”
is not regulated by the
(US) federal government,
so it can mean anything
you want.
And I have visited
a few farms where
they say, “Our chickens
are free range.
Chickens laying the eggs
get to go outdoors.”
And sometimes
it means a space this big,
or they are out
for five minutes.
They are by no means
living the life
they evolved to live.
Jeffrey Masson has noted
a deep similarity between
humans and animals
in terms of
their fear of death.
I have recently
come to believe that
animals actually
undergo a kind of trauma
as their death approaches,
the same trauma
that humans would.
The film called
“(Saving) Private Ryan,”
there is a terrible scene
where the American
soldier is slowly killed
with a knife and
in the moment, in extremis,
when he’s about to die,
he calls for his mother.
I asked a few people
I know who’ve been
in the army and they say
“Well that’s very common,
when somebody
is about to die
they call for their mother.”
What they’re doing
is calling for help.
Now I learned that when
pigs are slaughtered,
the screaming,
it sounds like a child
being murdered.
They scream.
And I asked some scientists
who were not
particularly concerned
with animal suffering
and I said, “Why do they
scream like that?”
And they said,
“Oh, don’t you know?
They are calling for help!”
I said,
“What do you mean?”
They said, “Well,
in the wild when a pig,
a small pig, a baby pig,
is being attacked it gives
this high pitch squeal
and that immediately
calls the herd, and
the whole herd comes
thundering over and
they protect the baby.”
And I know
that even elephants
will not approach
an enraged boar or sow
when they’re
protecting their young.
So it’s a very effective way
of calling for help.
So it’s really sad
to recognize that
when these animals are
being killed today by us,
they’re basically
calling for their mother.
They’re saying,
“Please help me,
don’t kill me!”
And when you realize that,
I don’t see how
anybody of compassion
could go ahead
and just take their life.
What about consuming
the flesh of animals
who have been raised on
what are termed
“organic farms?”
Do these animals actually
lead “happy lives”
as the meat industry
would like us all to believe?
I’ve seen ducks,
for example,
on the so-called
“humane” farms,
“organic” farms.
And these ducks
are near a pond,
but are never allowed
to go into the pond.
Well,
a duck is meant to swim!
It’s meant to live in a pond.
It’s meant to fly.
It’s meant
to go wherever it wants.
It bonds with another duck.
That’s the life
a duck was meant to live.
So a duck cannot be happy
living in a cage, and
killed at a few weeks old.
To talk about
"They’ve led a happy life"
is sheer hypocrisy!
It’s a misuse of language.
We should not use these
words about animals
that are there to be killed.
They are death camps.
They’re not summer camps,
they’re not going home to
their mother and father
at the end.
They’re going to be killed.
What kind of a camp
would we send our children
to that promised
to slaughter them
at the end of the term?
The word “humane”
should be reserved for
when we feel compassion.
And when we feel
compassion, we don’t kill.
And all of these animals
that have been quote
“humanely raised,” are
raised to be slaughtered.
That, in my opinion,
is not humane.
Some people believe
that it is acceptable
to consume fish, saying
that fish do not feel pain
when they are caught
or killed.
However this view
is rooted in ignorance
and does not reflect
the intense anguish
experienced by
these innocent beings
when they are taken
from the water.
Anybody who’s ever fished,
I only did it once in my life,
I’d never do it again, but
that fish is feeling pain.
They’re gasping for air,
somebody comes and
hits them with a board,
it takes them a long time
to die.
They’re in agony, just
like any other animal.
They are being traumatized,
they do not want to die.
They know they are dying.
They fight with
every ounce in their body
not to die.
I can see no reason
whatever to eat fish.
The meat industry
not only causes
unbearable suffering
to farm animals,
it also destroys the lives
of our fellow human beings
who kill these animals
and thus constantly witness
pain, death and agony.
Award-winning
American author
and chief investigator
for the Humane Farming
Association Gail Eisnitz,
who interviewed
many abattoir workers
in the United States
for her book,
Slaughterhouse, reports
that many of them
turn to alcohol or drugs
in an attempt
to forget the murdering
they do all day.
Do you know
what the turnover rate
on these places
is in a year? 100%.
Nobody wants to do this!
They do it
because they have to,
to make a living
for a short time.
And they pay them
minimum wages, and
horrendous conditions.
These men,
doing it to provide food
for their family,
within a year they quit.
They can’t stand it.
We as species,
were not made to kill life
to this extent.
We’re simply not evolved
to do that.
We are not meant
to be beings
who kill other beings.
As more and more people
come to fully understand
the cruelty and oppression
inherent in the way
we treat most animals,
Dr. Masson believes
that society will change
in the future and animals
will be rightfully viewed
as our equals.
I’m absolutely convinced
people will look back
and wonder “How
could we have done this?”
In exactly the same way
that we talk about slavery
or homophobia or sexism.
How could we
have been so blind?
Many thanks
Dr. Jeffrey Masson
and all others
who share their wisdom
and help people to realize
the barbarism and savagery
of the animal agriculture
industry.
Through your courageous
and diligent efforts,
you are helping to
create a world soon to come
where all embrace the
loving organic vegan diet
and live in peace and
harmony with animals.
Be Veg,
Go Green
2 Save the Planet.
For more details
on Dr. Masson,
please visit
JeffreyMasson.com
Books by Dr. Masson
are available
at the same website
Thank you
for your presence
on today's episode of
Stop Animal Cruelty.
Coming up next is
Enlightening Entertainment,
after Noteworthy News.
May you live each day with
joy, wisdom and nobility.
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