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HEALTHY LIVING
Dr. Neal Barnard: Eating Right for Cancer Survival - P5/8 (Replacing Meat)
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Welcome
health-conscious viewers
to Healthy Living
on Supreme Master
Television.
According to the World
Health Organization,
cancer is one of
the leading causes of death
in the world.
Each year
over 12 million people
across the globe
are diagnosed
with cancer
and 7.6 million
succumb to the disease.
The numbers are projected
to continue rising,
with an estimated
12 million deaths
by 2030.
Today we have the honor
to share the fifth part
of an eight part series
featuring excerpts from
The Cancer Project’s
“Eating Right
for Cancer Survival,”
a two-set DVD
of presentations
by esteemed nutrition
researcher and author
Dr. Neal Barnard, MD
that is a companion
to the book The Cancer
Survivor’s Guide
written by Dr. Barnard
and registered dietician
Jennifer Reilly.
Dr. Barnard, a vegan,
is the president
of The Cancer Project,
a US-based non-profit
organization advancing
cancer prevention and
survival through
distribution of
information on nutrition
and research.
Since its founding in 2004,
the Project has strived
to promote the vegan diet
as the answer to cancer.
The Cancer Project is
a part of
the Physicians Committee
for Responsible Medicine,
a group created by
Dr. Barnard in 1985
that is comprised of
physicians and
concerned citizens
in the US wishing to
improve public health.
The Committee is also
actively involved in
raising awareness
of the benefits
of a plant-based diet
through such projects
as the 21-Day
Vegan Kickstart program
and seeking to amend
federal nutrition guidelines.
Dr. Barnard has served as
the principal investigator
on many clinical studies
examining the links
between diet and health
and his work has been
published in top scientific
and medical journals.
He is often interviewed
by the national media
in the US
for his perspectives
on important issues
in nutrition, health
and medicine.
We are now pleased
to show
Dr. Barnard’s presentation
“Replacing Meat”
a chapter from the
“Eating Right for
Cancer Survival” DVD.
Replacing Meat
from the DVD
“Eating Right
for Cancer Survival”
Hi, welcome.
Thanks for joining us.
Researchers have tried
to tease apart
which parts of the foods
that we eat, might be
actually responsible for
increasing our cancer risk
and what kind of
dietary patterns
reduce that risk.
And one of the things
that they’ve really zeroed
their attention in on
is meat. Why?
Because in countries
with a lot of cancer
we tend to be meat-eaters
and in countries where
there’s not a lot of cancer,
I’m talking about
Asian countries, the staple
is something different.
In Japan the staple
is not a pork chop;
the staple is rice, noodles,
that sort of thing.
And as these countries have
westernized their diets,
bringing in meat
in a big way,
cancer rates have risen.
So the point is
in these Asian countries,
meat is at most
just a condiment
for other foods as opposed
to being the main dish
and in some
religious traditions,
they don’t consume it at all.
Well, why would meat
be linked to cancer risk?
One of the reasons is that
meat itself actually
delivers carcinogens
to your plate.
I mean
cancer-causing chemicals.
And it works like this:
Let’s say I take a burger or
a steak or a chicken fillet
and I put it on a grill,
and I heat it up, and
I put it then onto my plate.
Well, if I analyze it,
you’ll find
cancer-causing chemicals
were formed sometime
while it was on the grill.
What’s happening is that
the heat, the intense heat
of the grilling process
causes a change in
the animal muscle tissue,
so that carcinogens
called heterocyclic amines
actually start to form.
And if you swallow them,
they increase your risk
of cancer.
Dozens of studies
have shown that these
cancer-causing chemicals
that come from
heating up meat
are linked to
certain forms of cancer.
Now they form
in red meat, but they also
form in a big way on fish
and also on chicken.
Now Americans now eat,
believe it or not about a
million chickens per hour,
we eat a huge amount
of chicken!
And people say
“Well I don’t want
to eat red meat, I want
to eat more white meat,”
as if that’s going to be
healthier, so they’re
eating a lot of chicken.
They’re not realizing that
the biggest single source
of these carcinogenic,
these cancer-causing
heterocyclic amines
is actually chicken.
And people are eating it
grilled, because you
don’t want to eat it fried,
that’s full of fat,
that will fatten you up.
That’s all true.
But the grilled chicken
is actually
the biggest contributor to
these heterocyclic amines
in the body.
I’m just trying to
cheer everybody up. Okay.
You’re thinking back,
“Oh, what did I eat
yesterday?”
Well okay,
let’s do an experiment,
let say I take a burger
and I’m going
to take a chicken breast,
and I’m going
to take a veggie burger.
I grill the burger,
it gets nice and hot and
I analyze it, what’s inside?
You got it,
the carcinogens are there.
What if I take the chicken
breast and I grill that
and I send it to the lab,
are there carcinogens there?
You bet! What happens
if I grill a veggie burger?
It gets warm! That’s all.
The nice thing is that
plant products
tend not produce these
heterocyclic amines,
which is a good thing, but
that’s not the only reason
why meat might
contribute to cancer.
In fact, it may not
even be the main reason.
Meat has a lot of fat in it.
It doesn’t have any fiber
in it.
You know,
meat is not plant,
so it doesn’t have
plant roughage in it.
And so what that means,
is that high fat, low fiber
combination tends to
affect your hormones.
If you don’t have fiber
in your diet, and you
have a lot of fat, estrogen
in a woman’s body,
testosterone
in a man’s body
starts to increase.
And if I’m centering
my diet, not around
rice and vegetables
but around that big chuck
of meat, then
my hormones are likely
to get out of control.
So researchers
have put this to the test.
Do meat-eaters really
have more cancer or not?
And the answer is
they sure do.
At Harvard University
(USA), they’ve looked at
colon cancer.
And a man or a woman,
who eats meat every day,
particularly red meat,
has about three times
the risk of colon cancer,
compared to men or women
who tend to avoid it.
So it makes a big difference.
And you might say,
“Well what about fish?
I hear fish is okay.”
Well, fish has a lot of fat,
doesn’t have any fiber, and
if I grill fish, same story.
I’m going to find those
same heterocyclic amines
in the fish as well.
So, the other thing
by the way about the fish,
is a lot people say
“Well, yes, but
it’s got good fat in it.”
You know
what I’m talking about,
the omega-3 fatty acids.
That’s true it does.
But the omega-3’s are
only part of the story.
All fats are mixtures;
fish has saturated fat
in it, bad fat.
Saturated fat is the kind
that raises your cholesterol.
It’s the kind
that’s associated with
higher breast cancer risk.
So fish fat
brings you good fat and
it brings you bad fat too.
So by now you’re thinking.
“Well, I guess
maybe the healthiest diet
is a vegetarian diet.”
Well, it turns out
that’s true.
If you compare vegetarians,
they’ve got about
40% less cancer risk,
compared to everybody else.
And when I say
vegetarians, I mean
casual vegetarians,
the vegetarian off the street
who’s eating healthy food
but also the occasional
French fries and
barbecued potato chips
and whatnot.
They have
around 40% less cancer
compared to other people.
Well what if
I’m a careful vegetarian?
So I’m avoiding the meats
and the dairy products,
but I’m really bringing in
the vegetables
and the fruits
and the high fiber foods.
You can affect your
cancer risk even more.
And it’s a good move.
Because
if you’re just going,
as a lot of people do,
if you’re just going
from beef to chicken,
here’s exactly
how far that gets you.
The leanest beef is
about 29% fat,
as a percentage of calories,
the leanest chicken,
without the skin,
without the dark meat,
it’s about 23.
Fish vary, some are low,
some are high…
or lower I should say,
some are higher,
some are a lot higher.
Salmon, Chinook salmon
are about 50% fat.
Broccoli is eight percent fat,
beans are four, rice is
between one and five,
depending on the variety.
A potato is one percent fat.
A yam, sweet potato is
one percent fat.
That’s a way to really
get away from the fat,
really bringing in the fiber.
So if you avoid
the meat products,
what are you doing?
You’re avoiding
the carcinogens,
you’re avoiding the
hormone changing effects
that these foods have and
you’re allowing room
in your diet to
bring the healthy things in,
all the vegetables
and fruits and things
are coming in.
Now, you might say,
“Well, am I going
to get enough protein?”
You hear people say that
right?
Well, vegetarians
get enough protein.
And Frances Moore Lappé
wrote a really good book
a few years ago, called
“Diet for a Small Planet.”
Any of you
ever see this book?
She said if we follow
a vegetarian diet,
we could save this planet.
We could feed
hungry people.
And that’s true, because
instead of feeding
all the feed grains
to animals to get
this little bit of meat out,
we can eat the grains
directly.
But she made one mistake.
She said
to get adequate protein
you need to eat food
in certain combinations.
She had a list of grains
and said,
eat them with the beans,
and if one is
missing something,
the other will
make up for it.
And that’s sort of true,
except the American
Dietetic Association
looked at this and said
it’s actually much easier.
If you eat
any normal combination
of plant foods,
you get all the protein
that you’re
ever going to need.
So you don’t need to do
this protein complementing.
You don’t have to do that,
just eat any normal
combination of foods
that your tastes call for
and you’re going to get
all the protein
that you’ll need.
So if you want to
complement your proteins,
just say something nice
about them,
that’s all you have to do.
Now, people do freak out
about this a little bit.
I was flying once
and back in the old days,
when they used to
provide meals in flight,
I would always order
the vegetarian meal,
because you get served first.
And there’s a guy
sitting there next to me,
he says “Why did you
get served and
the rest of us haven’t?”
I said, “Well, I just
ordered a special meal.”
“What kind?”
“It’s vegetarian.”
“Oh, you’re a vegetarian
are you?
Don’t you feel
kind of weak?”
So the psychoanalyst
in me leapt to the fore
and I said, “Well, what’s
your image of strong?
Give a strong animal.”
“Oh,” he said “strong
like a bull or a stallion,
or a gorilla, elephant.”
These are all vegans okay.
Well you get the point.
A pussy cat is a meat eater,
a bull or a stallion
gets that massive
rippling musculature
from plant foods.
And what that means is
that plants have protein
in them.
You may not realize it,
but if you take
some broccoli,
about 40% of it is protein.
If you take beans
they’re about 30% protein
and if you take tofu
it’s about 40% protein.
So the animal protein
is the one
you want to get away from.
The plant proteins,
the same one that
makes animals strong
is the one
that you want to have.
If you look at
what is in meat,
it’s really just a mixture
of protein and fat,
there isn’t any fiber in it.
There isn’t any complex
carbohydrate in it.
There isn’t any vitamin C
in it.
It’s protein mixed with fat,
plus the occasional
parasite perhaps, but from
a nutritional standpoint,
it’s really just
protein mixed with fat.
Now, we all really grew up
with meat-based diets.
I grew up
in Fargo, North Dakota
and that was
the only way knew to eat.
Today we know better.
Today we’re discovering
the advantages
of plant-based nutrition.
Thank you.
Our sincere gratitude
Dr. Neal Barnard,
for your many years
of strongly advocating
for the universal adoption
of the plant-based diet.
The Cancer Project’s
invaluable information
on nutrition
has reached many people
and given them
a new perspective
as to why what we put
on our plates every day
has such
important consequences
to our health.
For more details
on The Cancer Project,
please visit
www.CancerProject.org
The two-set DVD
“Eating Right
for Cancer Survival”
and The Cancer
Survivor’s Guide,
a free to download e-book,
are available
at the same website
Thank you
gentle viewers,
for being with us
on today’s program.
Please join us
the third Monday
of each month
on Healthy Living
for the remainder
of this eight part series.
Next episode…
Dr. Neal Barnard’s
Eating Right
for Cancer Survival –
Part 6 of 8
“Cancer-fighting
Compounds and
Immune-boosting foods”
Monday, November 15.
Up next is
Science and Spirituality,
after Noteworthy News,
here on
Supreme Master Television.
May health and happiness
be with you always.
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