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Meeting Babaji, the Great Immortal Saint - P1/3
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Halo, God-loving viewers.
Today, we will begin
a three-part program
featuring an interview
with Ms. Marge DeVivo
from the Unites States,
a trusted disciple
of the great spiritual saint
of the Himalayas –
Haidakhan Babaji.
Haidakhan Babaji is
an immortal Mahavatar,
meaning a great Divine
being who can manifest
a human form at will.
He is believed
to be the same
mysterious Mahavatar
who is described in
Paramahansa Yogananda’s
fascinating book,
“Autobiography of a Yogi.”
Mahavatar,
the meaning of that
is that he didn’t come
through a woman’s body,
he just creates the body.
Babaji has
many different forms
and many incarnations
that he’s taken,
but he doesn’t do
normal incarnations
by being born, and
coming through a woman
as a little baby and all that.
He can form a body
anytime he wants to.
Now, the first place
that I heard about
Mahavatar Babaji
was when I read
“Autobiography of a Yogi”
by Paramahansa
Yogananda,
and that was in about
1970 through 1974.
It talked about
Mahavatar Babaji
as a being who
came to help the Earth,
that he and Jesus
worked in connection
with each other.
The other thing
that was said
was that any time
even you mentioned
Babaji’s name
in reverence, you receive
an instantaneous blessing.
And so when I read all of
that, I sat very quietly,
said his name,
and I did feel a blessing.
And so then
my other prayer that
I put out to the universe
right then and there was,
“If you are in a body now,
I want to see you.”
And I said it with
all my heart and soul
and just felt like I really
had a deep connection
with Babaji.
In 1978,
Ms. DeVivo came
in contact with Babaji
through one of his students
who taught workshops
in the United States.
Finally, in 1982,
she and her partner
decided to travel to India
to meet him.
Who was this wondrous
being called Babaji
whom Ms. DeVivo was
going to visit in India?
Let’s take a look at
his story: In the 19th
and early 20th centuries,
a legendary Yogi
who was called
Haidakhan Babaji
appeared frequently
in Northern India
in the Himalayan region.
He was said to possess
all of the yogic siddhis
(supernatural powers),
and the people who met him
would experience
a deep bliss in his presence.
The last time he was seen
was in 1922, when
he disappeared before
a group of his students
in a ball of light.
Many people believed
that Haidakhan Babaji
was the immortal Babaji.
One of these was
the well-known saint
Mahendra Baba
who had met Babaji
in his youth
and diligently prophesied
that Babaji would appear
again in public soon.
In 1970,
a man from Haidakhan by
the name of Chandramani
had a dream in which
his long-deceased father,
who had been a devotee
of Haidakhan Baba,
appeared to him
and told him that
Babaji had reappeared
and that he should go
and look for him
in a certain cave.
Chandramani
went to the cave and
found a venerable old man
with a long white beard
sitting there.
The old man told him
to go back home and
come back in three days.
Chandramani went home
but returned immediately.
When he came back,
to his amazement,
instead of the old man
he found a young yogi
of angelic beauty
who seemed to be
only 20 to 22 years old.
The young saint
acknowledged that
he was Haidakhan Baba.
This “new” Babaji
who seemed to be
20 to 22 years old later
stated in the local court
that his age was 130 years.
The court acknowledged
that he was the same
Haidakhan Babaji
who had appeared
half a century earlier
in the same region.
Ms. Marge DeVivo
kindly shared about her
first meeting with Babaji
at his Haidakhan ashram
in the Himalayas.
When we got up there,
Babaji was down
in the water,
in the riverbed
taking his bath.
He would go down and
they would pour buckets
of water over him,
and whoever was asked
to come for the bath
was kind of a privileged.
And he watched us,
this took like 15 minutes
to walk from where we were
over to where he was.
We were walking
across the riverbed
trying to just stay calm.
Everything started
to tremble
as I got closer to him.
And so,
I finally got over to him
and the procedures
always say to touch his feet,
the tradition in India.
So I bent down
to touch his feet
and then stood up, and
in standing this close.
And he said,
“What your names?”
And I couldn’t –
I opened my mouth
and I knew
what my name was, but
I couldn’t say anything,
nothing would come out.
My partner says,
“Oh, our names,
what are our names?
I don’t remember
what our names are.”
So finally, he says,
“We’re Jim and Marge,”
and then I could
open my mouth and I said,
“and we came from
our teacher Emahmn.”
Emahmn was the one
who taught us
for that whole year,
and I knew that he was
very close to Emahmn.
And Babaji just turned
and he looked down
the riverbed
and he screamed,
“Emahmn, Emahmn!”
with all his force.
And then when
he turned back to us,
there was none of that.
He just looked at us,
and he told us
to go sit under a tree
where it was shady
because it was very hot.
So we finally sat
in the shade and
he came up to talk to us.
We’re sitting there
and kind of trembling,
in awe and unable to
really function at all.
He walked in front of us.
He just kept pacing
back and forth,
back and forth.
He was
building up this energy
back and forth.
And then
he grabbed a chapatti,
because it was lunch time
and there was
a plate of chapatti there.
He took a bite out of it
and then he breathed
on the rest of it.
And he went over to Jim
and he said, “Open,”
and he shoved the chapatti
in Jim’s mouth,
and Jim ate it.
And then he did
the same thing with me,
with a smaller one,
and the minute that food
got into our mouth
with his energy on it,
everything calmed down.
It was just
total peace, harmony,
“Here we are in India.
Isn’t this great?
Here is Babaji.”
And it felt like that was
all there was, and all that
there had ever been
was Babaji, and that
this was a normal life.
The only thing about that
was that as we went on
with our day, we realized
we couldn’t even
remember anything
from our other life.
We knew
that I had three sisters,
Jim had five sisters,
and neither of us
could remember
even one sister's name.
It was like,
this was the only life.
It wore off by the time
we were coming back.
But it stayed this way
the whole time
we were there really.
So that was a blessing
because we could go on
with daily life there
as if this is normal
and this is fine, because
it was such a complete
different lifestyle.
And if we had stayed
in that state of awe
that we had started out in,
I don't think we could
have stayed there at all.
It was just too intense.
“His eyes are dark
and sparkling, laughing,
full of bliss,
endless in their depth;
seeming to contain
or reflect the cosmos. …
His face is full,
like the sun.
His beauty is
beyond this world. …
His body is broad,
sometimes
quite large in stature.
At times, he seems
to carry the earth
in his belly. …
One devotee
had an experience
of entering Babaji's body
and in fact viewing,
seemingly,
the whole universe
contained therein.
Despite this load,
grace characterizes
all of his movements.
He walks, sometimes
carrying a staff, and his feet,
like the lotus flower,
do not seem
to rest on the ground.
At times
he leaves no footprints.
… Some people
who have carried him
report that he seems to
weigh almost nothing.”
“What one observes
in Babaji's
physical appearance
depends upon what
Babaji chooses to disclose.
Sheila, an Indian devotee,
first met Babaji in 1972.
… When
she first saw Babaji, she
spoke to him internally.
She asked that if he were
what he was reported
as being, he should
disclose himself to her.
For the next half hour,
as she continually
pinched herself
to make sure
she wasn't dreaming,
she stared at his face,
which changed
like a kaleidoscope,
from one form of God
to another,
running the gamut of
Hindu and other deities.
I have seen him also,
with my physical eyes,
as the great Lord Shiva…
One time I even saw
his face as Hanuman,
the beloved
monkey-faced god
who is said to be
a Shiva manifestation…
This fairest flower
of creation, ocean of mercy
without any motive;
why has he come
to the world?
To the worldly minded
it is impossible to
perceive Babaji's nature.
But God has few
to whom he whispers
in the ear.
It is for these that
he has come into the world.
This is what he said:
I am everywhere –
in your every breath.
I am come to help you
realize unity
beyond division.
I will show you a freedom
you have not imagined.
You must seek that unity
where there is an awareness
that we are all one
and the same.
You should seek harmony
in all that you do.
I am harmony...”
He gave us the mantra
“Om Namah Shivaya”
(I take refuge in God)
as the way to purify
and be in alignment
with ourselves.
And so,
while in his presence,
you could feel,
it was like a vibrational
Om Namah Shivaya
(I take refuge in God)
all over the land,
all around.
But the major things
were just how you knew
that he knew everything
about you,
and still loved you.
There was so much
unconditional love
coming out of him,
even though he knew
all my past, all my future.
That was mind-boggling,
I mean,
truly mind-boggling,
and to actually
feel unconditional love
from any being,
is something
I don’t think you get over.
And I think that’s
what had a lot of the people
really staying there
and wanting to be there
so much, is because
you felt that
total complete acceptance
and unconditional love.
Today, many years
after Ms. DeVivo studied
with Babaji in India,
and long since
he had left that form,
she is still communicating
and working with
her beloved teacher.
The mission is to spread
the eternal teachings of
Truth, Simplicity, and Love,
service to humanity,
and remembering God.
Upon Babaji’s instruction
for this mission,
Ms. Marge DeVivo
created a website
for all to freely access
his universal teachings
and an online
spiritual-minded
community at
Thank you for
your kind company today.
Please join us
next Sunday, October 24,
for the continuation
of our three-part program,
when we will hear
various accounts about
the miraculous immortal
saint, Mahavatar Babaji.
Now, please stay tuned
to Supreme Master
Television
for Our Noble Lineage,
right after
Noteworthy News.
Blessed be
the Divine within you.
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