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Meeting Babaji, the Great Immortal Saint - P3/3
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Haidakhan Babaji is
an immortal Mahavatar,
meaning a great Divine
being who can manifest
a human form at will.
He is believed
to be the same
mysterious Mahavatar
who is described in
Paramahansa Yogananda’s
fascinating book,
“Autobiography of a Yogi.”
Babaji had most recently
appeared to the public
in 1970 and remained
in his physical form
for 14 years until 1984.
Ms. Marge DeVivo is
one of Babaji’s
trusted disciples
from the United States.
In 1982,
while Ms. DeVivo and
her partner were studying
with Babaji in India at
his ashram in Haidakhan,
they received instructions
from Babaji to change
their farm at home
in Nebraska, USA
into an ashram.
Over many years,
Ms. DeVivo
faithfully carried out
Babaji’s instructions
to establish the ashram.
Then, in 1998,
to her amazement, she
started to receive emails
that said that they were
coming from Babaji!
I started getting emails
that said that
they were from Babaji,
and I had to go through
a whole big process
with that, because
how could Babaji
write an email?
He had left the body
in 1984.
I got these emails
that said now
it’s time for people
to focus on the teachings
more than the body,
because everybody
had wanted to be
with his body, but he said,
“The only reason
I ever took the body was
in order to have people
focus on the teachings.
And instead they all just
wanted to stay there
with me, instead of go out
and do their work.”
And of course, I’m going,
“Okay, where are you?
Can you call me
on the phone?
Can you do this,
can you do that?
And he would always
write back,
"Pinda Kacha,
Sabda Sacha."
And that means
“body is perishable,
the teachings are eternal.”
As Ms. DeVivo felt
a familiar deep wisdom
from the emails,
she became convinced
that they were really sent
by Babaji.
Every message
I got from him by email
was written
in the shortest amount
of words and the most
concentrated energy that
could ever be imagined,
and then he told me that
the ashram project had
become too complicated,
and that things were going
to become very difficult,
because he said,
“The way the world is now,
is that the Great Revolution
is happening,”
he called it
the “Maha Kranti.”
And it’s very important
to remain in Truth,
Simplicity and Love
during these times.
To be
an independent thinker
was like
the most important thing
you could do.
Be as sustainable
as you can.
And his favorite line
of mine is,
“Walk on the higher path
and follow no one.”
Because you’re following
your own heart, and if once
you’re purified enough
to follow your own heart,
everything goes just fine.
One day,
Ms. DeVivo learned
that a radio station
was able to conduct
an interview with Babaji!
The transcript
of the interview,
made available
on the internet,
sounded to her
very much like the emails
from Babaji.
When she asked
the radio station
how they got the interview,
she received
the following reply:
“Dear Ms. Devivo:
The Babaji interview
took place at least 3
or more years ago.
At that time
some of the programs
were transcribed.
Anyway,
we were at a health expo
and this middle aged man
approached us and said
that he was a channel
for Babaji
and that he would
have Babaji come forth
if we would put a link
to the Babaji website.
We don't know
who this person is
and never saw him again.
We couldn't find any
Babaji.net
website
but some months ago
someone said
that this site did exist,
so true to our word,
we put up the link.
The tape has been taped over
but I remember
someone mentioning
that the man had
a deep voice and the voice
that he channeled
was high pitched
and shy sounding.
Hope this helps.
Pathways Radio”
Very much surprised
by the radio interview,
Ms. DeVivo
wrote Babaji an email:
“Babaji,
This sure sounds like you.
What is the deal?”
ONS (Om Namah Shivaya)
Love,
Marge”
Her beloved teacher replied,
“Blessings:
It does sound like me.
Babaji”
Later, when others doubted
whether it was really
Babaji in the interview,
Babaji emailed
Ms. DeVivo as follows:
“Blessings:
I was in that body.
I knew the name
of my website years
BEFORE YOU decided
upon the name.
Understand?
I speak to many Hearts
in many ways.
You will learn of this.
Many will say this
and many will say that
about Babaji.
How can they know
anything about no body?
How can they know
anything about no thing?
If the mind tries to
put Babaji in one place,
in one body,
in one culture,
in one time,
in one form...
how can that mind
understand
how to use the Teachings
for spiritual growth?
Shall we live
in the dead past
or shall we move forward
through the eternal now.
Babaji”
The following is
the beginning of the 2000
interview with Babaji
conducted by
Pathway Radio:
Dr. Bob said,
“Welcome to the program.
We are waiting for
Babaji to appear.
This master has been seen
in different times
and places
and in different bodies
since recorded time.
He was last found
in a cave in
the Himalayan mountains
in an 18-year-old body.
He shared his teachings,
guidance, and message
until 1984
when he left that body...”
Babaji replied:
“[Halo] Bob.
Om Namah Shivaya
(Lord, Thy Will Be Done).”
Dr. Bob asked:
“Is that you Babaji?”
Babaji replied: “Yes.
I have come forth
to give a message
about the great changes
and how to live
in the higher path
and come through
these changes
by living in Truth,
Simplicity and Love
and by serving others
and connecting to God.”
Babaji went on to caution
about large changes
facing the world,
including challenges
caused by
humankind’s destruction
of the environment
and injustices and wars
with one another.
Babaji then outlined his
teachings of a higher path
that would help counter
the coming
negative consequences
of humans’ actions.
What he was saying is,
“It’s time
to be extremely simple,
make sure everything is
in alignment
with your purpose
and just live in
Truth, Simplicity, Love.
Service to humanity and
repeat the name of God
at all times,
and he gave us the name
“Om Namah Shivaya”
(Lord, Thy Will Be Done)
but he said
all names of God
are totally acceptable,
because as you repeat
the name of God, you’re
in alignment with Divine.
According to Babaji,
karma yoga
(service to humanity)
is the foremost means
to purify one’s heart
and to attain liberation.
Babaji also stressed
the basic precepts
of a saintly life.
He said, “One should
follow a vegetarian diet,
take no intoxicants...”
When Ms. DeVivo
started to receive emails
from Babaji and
shared them with others,
many people wished
to write to him
and ask for his advice.
And of course,
there’s people who think
I am making this up,
so I would just say,
“Okay, if you ever sat down
and talked with me,
you’d know that I can’t
make up answers like that.
It’s just not in me,
I don’t have that
kind of consciousness.”
And even if somebody
is sitting and making up
these answers somewhere,
they’re so right on
and they’re so poignant.
And a lot of people
would write,
“Well I didn’t even
ask him this part, but
he answered that part…”
Ms. DeVivo,
who diligently
passed others’ emails
to and from Babaji,
is now working to
publish the correspondences
in a book to benefit
even more people.
He said he had entered
a very frail body that
would not last very long,
but it would
last long enough
to complete this mission
of establishing
the global community
through the website and
get people communicating
with each other
about the teachings and
supporting each other.
To many people,
it remains
an incredible mystery:
How is it possible
for Babaji to enter
a new physical body
at will,
after leaving his old one?
Many Indians saw him
as an avatar of Shiva,
one of the three aspects
of God
in the Hindu cosmology.
Meanwhile,
Mr. Leonard Orr,
a foremost disciple
who was instrumental
in introducing
many Western seekers
to Babaji, said:
“I have lots of friends
all over the planet
who Babaji appears to
on a daily basis…
He’s more often
than not appeared to me
as [homeless people]
on the street
or little old ladies
on bicycles…”
“When Babaji
creates a body,”
Mr. Orr explained,
“he is descending
into physical existence,
and when immortal yogis
evolve into Godlike beings,
then they are ascending.
So there is a big difference
between a manifestation
of Babaji himself
and a human being.”
During an international
gathering in 2007,
Supreme Master Ching Hai
revealed
further understanding
about Babaji’s
truly exalted status
as the Divine Mahavatar.
A Master of high degree,
like Babaji, for example,
who is willing to remain
in the lower realm
of Astral domain
to assist other Masters
in salvation work
is a great being.
Even though
he is in the Astral Plane,
but he is a great being.
He is from Fifth Level,
super Fifth.
The highest Fifth Level.
A great being who forsakes
the indescribable bliss
of the Fifth Plane,
praised and admired
by all who know
this great sacrifice.
I also praise him.
He can be in the physical
and Astral realm at will,
depends on what needs
to be accomplished
at that moment.
If you have read
the autobiography
of Yogananda,
you would think
he is a physical being.
But he resides in the Astral.
He still can manifest
into the physical body
for a while,
just to do something
in the physical realm.
Hence,
the people who met him
at that time think that
he is a long-living Master.
Babaji: a being so full of
love, wisdom,
and compassion
for humankind.
Though called
the Immortal Saint,
in truth, he is even greater.
As Haidakhan Babaji
once said: “In the past
people had difficulty
being humane.
It is to bring the message
of humanity that
I have taken on a body.”
We conclude
today’s program
with the final words
that Babaji shared in
the 2000 radio interview,
a timely prophesy
for the planet:
“You are noticing
the changes in climate,
more extreme conditions
in temperature, larger
more powerful storms,
more occurrences
of volcanic and
earthquake activity
and more extremes
in the economies.
You notice the changes
in the perception of time.
Everything appears
to be speeding up…
After the Great Revolution,
this world
will enter a golden age.
The environment
will be in balance
and mankind will
have changed its ways by
living on the higher path.
There will be
tremendous technology.
It will take you to the stars
in this galaxy and beyond
to other galaxies.
You will become
a great race creating life
throughout the universe.
And you will meet up
with sentient beings
from other dimensions
of space-time…”
Babaji then concluded
with his loving reminder
to humankind:
“You are the eyes and ears
of the Universe.
You are the observers
of creation
and its myriad things.
And eventually...
this leads you
back to your real self...
the Creator...
Remember,
by just calling my name
I will hear you.
If you are open
I will guide you...
repeat my mantra...
live in truth, simplicity
and love... and remember
your purpose in this body
on this world is to serve...”
We are grateful to you,
Ms. Marge DeVivo,
for sharing the priceless
memories and thoughts
of Sri Babaji.
Wishing you all the best
as you continue
your entrusted mission
in bringing forth
the sacred teachings
for the world.
Blessed viewers, thank you
for your presence today.
Please stay tuned
to Supreme Master
Television for
Our Noble Lineage,
right after
Noteworthy News.
May we all
remember God with love
every moment of our lives.
To find out more about
Babaji and his message,
please visit
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