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Science & Spirituality
Dr. Fred Alan Wolf and Quantum Spirituality - P2/3
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This leads naturally into
the simple recognition of
the great spiritual wisdom.
There is only one mind
because mind separated
into separate parcels
of space and time
makes no sense
from the point of view
of quantum physics.
And the theory
of entanglement
is one of the indications
of the truth
of that statement.
Welcome,
thoughtful viewers, to
Science and Spirituality
on Supreme Master
Television.
This program is part two
of a three-part series
featuring an interview
with a popular
quantum physicist,
author and lecturer
from the United States,
Dr. Fred Alan Wolf.
Dr. Wolf earned a Ph.D.
in theoretical physics
from the University
of California –
Los Angeles, USA
in 1963.
He has lectured
across the world, conducted
extensive research
in his field, written
many award-winning
books such as
“Taking
the Quantum Leap” and
“The Spiritual Universe,”
and served as
the resident physicist on
the Discovery Channel
program “The Know Zone.”
Dr. Wolf has appeared
in popular films such as
“What The Bleep
Do We Know”
and “The Secret.”
He is known for
explaining the complex
laws of quantum physics
in an engaging way
so that non-scientists can
better understand them
and see
how they relate to
spiritual principles.
His fascinating work
has sparked the interest
of many to deeply inquire
into the very nature of
existence and the mind.
Last week Dr. Wolf
explained what led him
to become interested in
the relationship
between quantum physics
and spirituality.
Today he provides
his perspective
on fascinating subjects
ranging from
the nature of reality,
to the quantum
entanglement theory to
how quantum computers
could possibly develop
their own consciousness
in the future.
A good question is
what is reality?
And what does it mean
to talk about reality
in any significant way?
Clearly there seems to be
some boundaries between
what we call “what’s real.”
You have your reality,
I have my reality.
That seems to be the case.
However when you begin
to look deeply
into this question
of quantum physics, and
how mind enters into it,
we cannot find a boundary
from one mind to the next.
We cannot find anything
which distinguishes
your mind from my mind.
We have the experience
of such a distinguishing
going on.
But if you really look at it,
and I look at you,
and I say to myself,
“That’s a human being,”
but I don’t have
any experience of you
other than
what I am experiencing
from my natural senses,
I’m not inside your head
looking out your eyeballs,
so I don’t know
what you’re seeing,
I don’t know what you’re
smelling or tasting.
I can imagine
what those things are,
but I don’t have
an experience of that.
So that’s a tendency to say
that well since we seem
to have separate bodies,
we must have
separate minds.
But according to what
we understand about mind,
it doesn’t have any place
where you can make
the compartmentalization
take place.
In fact Erwin Schrödinger
one of the founders
of quantum physics,
actually came up with
a proof that there wasn’t
any separation
between various minds
even though it appears
that there are.
That would bring us
into the quantum
entanglement theory.
Can you explain that?
Well, in quantum
entanglement it can
involve mind, of course,
but what it involves is
what happens
after what is called
an interaction.
When things interact
we usually have a picture
of an interaction
as something
coming together
and flying apart,
bindle-bangle,
that’s an interaction.
And the question
then becomes
if I know what’s going on
before the interaction
can I say what’s going on
after the interaction?
Now if these were billiard
balls, classical snooker,
or some game like that
and you hit a ball
and bounce it
against another ball,
the snooker players and
billiard ball players know
how to control that.
So they can say given
that I push the white ball
with a certain amount
of momentum
and hit it a certain way,
it’s going to hit the red ball
and it’s going to
fall over this way and
everything is correlated –
co-related – correlated;
(it’s the) same word.
In other words,
I have control
the initial conditions
which are the ball
I am trying to hit
which is at rest
on the green maze table
and the little white ball
I am hitting with my cue.
I have control over the
position and the momenta
of both objects
so I could predict what
the position and momenta
of the two objects are
after they hit and fly apart.
Momenta being
mass times velocity or
the movement of the object
as it goes flying off
in a given direction –
that’s called momentum.
Anyway that’s fine
but in quantum physics
we have no such control.
We don’t know exactly
the position and momenta
of each object
to begin with;
but once they interact
they become
what is called entangled.
They become a correlation
which means
since we don’t know
exactly where they are
the question arises:
What do we know
of these objects?
And the question then is
answered with this answer.
We do know that if
you measure the position
of the object on the left
after the interaction you
can predict the position
of the object on the right
after the interaction.
But if you decide to
measure the momentum
of the object on the left
after the interaction
you could predict
the momentum
of the object on the right
after the interaction.
But you cannot predict
both the position
and the momenta
of either object
after the interaction.
Even if you measure both
at the same time
you cannot determine
what the other object
is going to have.
Entanglement tells us
that they are
correlated provided
you ask one question
but not both.
It’s a kind of a funny
kind of 20 questions
thing that you can’t ask
all the questions at once.
So you can’t determine
the answers to all of them.
There seems to be a buzz
going around about
quantum computing. (Yes)
What’s going on
in this field?
Well, let me explain
as basically as I can about
the difference between
a quantum computation
and a normal computation.
Computers are
very simple basic tools
that are very complicated
because the very basic tool
is multiplied by
a zillion times.
The basic tool is simply
up or down, on or off,
zero or one: that’s the tool.
In other words,
it’s a switch.
All computers are
a bunch of switches.
Think of a switch
as something
which you can throw
as going down or up,
up/down, two switch
positions and that is
an ordinary computer,
a whole bunch of these
things, billions of them.
And that’s how it works.
Basically, change the
positions of the switches;
there are two possible
positions here, there is
another one over here,
two more – that’s
four possible positions.
They can be both up;
they can be both this way;
they can be like this;
or they can be like this.
Now put three of them in,
that means two
(possible positions)
times three (switches)
which is eight
(possible positions)
and so forth …
so two to the power of
how many different
switches there are is
the power of the computer.
It could be very large.
Two to the power of ten
is already more than
a thousand so you can see
that you could get a lot of
different possibilities.
Now we come to
a quantum computer.
It’s also made of switches
but all these positions
in between are allowed
and can be computed
in combination
with the other ones.
So there is an infinite
variety in each switch
of possible positions.
So you have as many as
different possible positions
this has multiplied by
as many switches
as there are and you have
a quantum computer.
Of course, because
they are so flimsy in a way,
they are not very robust;
you have to
really isolate them
to make sure that you
don’t make them snap.
Now the thing which makes
quantum computation
of interest is that
even though there are
all these different
positions possible when
you make computations,
when you don’t actually
observe what’s going on
(very important,
you don’t look).
When you actually observe
any one of these switches
what you instantly get is
this (up) or that (down),
but never anything
in-between.
Is that because of
the observing effect?
That’s exactly it.
Okay.
So what a quantum
computer does:
it has way of observing,
or bringing in the observer
and the question is
whether the machine
can observe its own state
or not.
It’s still an open question.
I will lend a little bit of
speculation here.
If it’s possible
that we can build
a self-observing
quantum computer
it would be as conscious
as a self-observing
human being.
It will also think about God
and questions like that.
A thinking,
really conscious being
in a computer –
a being essentially able
to do what we can do,
which is to make things
snap one way or the other.
But it’s the possibilities
which all these different
possible positions
can add up
because what we have
in quantum physics
is something called
“superposition
possibilities.”
If one switch is like this
and the one next to it
is like that,
then the two add together
like making vectors –
you have one like this,
one like that,
and you can add them up
and you get a whole bunch
of different vectors going
in all different directions
and you get many,
infinitely many
different possibilities.
Whereas with only
this kind of computer
(up or down, on or off),
it’s either
this adds with this one
makes that one,
or it goes down.
You don’t get
any in-betweens and
therefore you don’t get
any states associated with
any of the in-betweens;
whereas
in quantum computers
you can actually get
something associated with
the in-betweens provided
you don’t look at what’s
going on in-between.
It’s a very fascinating field.
It’s one of the biggest
fields in thinking today
in quantum physics.
Almost all the papers
appearing right now
have different aspects
of quantum computation
because it affects everything.
We would like to again
thank Dr. Fred Alan Wolf
for explaining complex
quantum physics concepts
in a highly engaging
manner and
offering his insights on
science, consciousness
and spirituality.
Bright viewers, please
join us next Monday on
Science and Spirituality
for the conclusion of
our three part interview
with Dr. Wolf.
For more details
on Dr. Fred A. Wolf,
please visit
Books, CDs, and DVDs
by Dr. Wolf
are available
at the same website
Thank you
for your company today
on our show.
Coming up next is
Words of Wisdom,
after Noteworthy News
here on
Supreme Master Television.
May the wonders
of the universe
forever inspire us all.
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