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SCIENCE & SPIRITUALITY
Dr. John E. Brandenburg - Dead Mars, Dying Earth - P2/2
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Welcome,
respected viewers, to
Science and Spirituality
on Supreme Master
Television.
Although the surface
of Mars appears to have
been barren and lifeless
for eternity, scientists
are closely studying
the geological
and geochemical data
from the red planet
for evidence of it having
had a biosphere similar
to Earth in the past.
Dr. John Brandenburg,
a theoretical plasma
physicist from
the United States,
believes that
a humanoid civilization
once lived on Mars,
a theory called
the Cydonian Hypothesis.
He is one of the authors
of “Dead Mars,
Dying Earth,”
a book concerning Mars’
past and the lessons
its history holds
for our planet’s future.
In this second and final
part of our interview
with Dr. Brandenburg,
we continue
our intriguing discussion
with him about
our planetary neighbor.
In 1976,
the US spacecraft
Viking Orbiter I
recorded images of Mars.
One image, from a region
called Cydonia, taken
has astounded many
astronomers, cosmologists
and other scientists –
a likeness of the human face
on the planet’s surface.
What’s even more amazing
is that later additional
“faces” were found
in other regions of Mars.
Dr. Brandenburg now
provide more insight
into this phenomena.
In your opinion, what
are the most profound
and significant findings
from the Mars research?
The fact that we know
so much about Mars now
says a great deal about
the human race, that we
are a very curious people
who are intent
on finding truth.
I think the most
significant thing that
we have found basically
is the “Face” on Mars
because that tells you
what Mars’ climate was
like for most of its history,
right there,
in one statement,
one eloquent statement.
It says that
Mars was alive and had
a climate like Earth’s
for most of its history.
So, has NASA taken
images of Cydonia again
in its most recent mission?
Yes, they have,
and they look just like
the old pictures.
The object is quite eroded.
If you’ve seen any
archaeology before it is
spruced up, it looks pretty
rough because it’s old
and it’s been eroded.
Nature tends to take
whatever we make
and reduce it to dust
and gravel, and the
same thing has happened.
But we see evidence of
details, anatomical details
and structural details
that indicate to me that
it is artificial.
There are also other
“faces” in Utopia.
They have taken a new
picture of one of them
and it looks very much
like the “Face”
in Cydonia
and it is a “face.”
I think it will be
established probably
within the next four or
five years that there was
and is life on Mars,
and we will start
talking about bacteria.
Then, they will move on
to talking maybe
about fish fossils
that they have found.
By investigating Mars,
we are on a collision
course with life;
life and death
in the cosmos.
Where is Cydonia?
Cydonia is right here
in this area.
It’s right on the shoreline
of what would have been
the ocean.
What’s also interesting is
there’s a kind of hotspot
of radioactivity
in this area.
So two great disasters
happened on Mars,
one here and then
this asteroid impact
happened here,
and Cydonia was
right in between them.
That’s very puzzling.
Why would so many
bad things happen in
one area of Mars that
just happens to have had
archaeology in it?
In the Cydonian Hypothesis,
the hypothetical
Cydonian civilization did
not look very advanced.
It didn’t look like
they had any level of
technology beyond Egypt
when they built
the pyramids.
The occurrence of
the radioactive hotspot
on Mars
in the Mare Acidalium,
near the Cydonia Face
which is basically
to the west of it and then
the Lyot impact basin
to the east of Cydonia
means that two
tremendous catastrophes
on Mars happened in
almost the same geologic
area and they basically
bracketed Cydonia.
So that’s very puzzling.
One starts to examine
various science fiction
scenarios for
what could have really
occurred there.
We’re like Sherlock Holmes,
investigating the scene
of some occurrence,
wondering why
the dog didn’t bark.
So we continue to look at
the Mars mystery and
it’s a wonderful thing
to be living in this age
where we’re finally
getting the answers to
all these mysteries we
used to wonder about.
They used to think there
were canals on Mars.
Well, there weren’t
any canals but
there are water channels.
There’s everything on Mars
that they actually
imagined there was
but it isn’t quite the same
as they imagined it.
The famed US
astrophysicist
Dr. Carl Sagan supported
searching for life
in the Universe.
One of his most
memorable quotes is:
“We are a way for the
cosmos to know itself.”
Will you share with us
some of the outcomes
of your interactions
with Dr. Carl Sagan?
He was very encouraging
to us simply
by being interested.
I found him to be
an eminent scientist
and a very clear
scientific thinker.
Much of the Cydonian
Hypothesis owes itself
to his questions.
He basically,
by his questions and his
reasoning back and forth
with me, he enabled me
to formulate
the hypothesis
in a much better manner
than what I otherwise
would have.
His support was vital in
getting NASA to actually
take new pictures
(of Cydonia).
When we return,
we will hear from
Dr Brandenburg about
the urgent signals
nature is sending us that
Earth is on course
to become like
the present-day Mars.
Please stay tuned to
Supreme Master
Television.
Welcome back to
Science and Spirituality
for our program regarding
life on Mars and Earth.
Dr. John Brandenburg
now addresses the
connection between the
two planets in relation to
climate and environment.
So how did you conclude
that Earth is dying?
We are losing biodiversity.
One of the signs of health
of any ecological system
is how many different
little ecological niches
does it have?
Does it have a place
for tree frogs?
Does it have a place for
birds nesting in the trees?
How many different types
of trees, etc.?
And Earth is losing that.
We are going from being
a rainbow of colors to
being just one color,
one kind of tree,
no tree frogs,
one kind of bird, etc.
We’re losing the different
species that have always
been part of the Earth.
We’re losing the fact that
Earth is a family of life
and that family is
losing members, and
we should be very
concerned about that.
However,
I remain an optimist.
I believe the human race
can solve these problems.
So what does
the relationship between
Mars and Earth mean
to you as a scientist and
what should it mean to
Earth’s citizens at large?
We should be careful
with the planet we have
but we should learn
as much as possible
from the story of life
and death on Mars.
One of the most chilling
scenarios in your book
is stated on page 153.
It says, “The world we
know is like the Titanic.”
Yes.
“It is grand, chic,
high-powered, and
it is effortless through
a frigid sea of icebergs.
It does not have enough
lifeboats, (No) and
those that it has will be
poorly employed.
There’s a reason why
interest in the Titanic
has been revived.
It is the exact metaphor
for our planet.
On some level, we know
we are on the Titanic.
We just don’t know
we’ve been hit.”
Can you elaborate on that?
Well, my co-author,
Monica Paxson, who is
a brilliant woman, and I,
both ended up thinking
about that same analogy
simultaneously
and it seemed like
such a good metaphor.
On the Titanic, there were
a whole mixture of
passengers, a lot of
whom were very poor.
When the Titanic
went down, the lifeboats
were basically
for the rich people.
If the Sahara Desert
expands into the Sahel
and even into the Congo
Basin, it will be
the poorest in the world
who suffer.
They will have to move to
find new places to live.
They will be the ones
who will run out of food
because they don’t have
enough water
to raise their crops.
The rich societies
have power to adjust to
changes in climate.
The poor societies do not.
A tragic example is
the impact of
the great earthquake in
Haiti versus in Chile and
the economic difference
between Chile and Haiti
is quite large.
And you could see that
even though the earthquake
was much stronger,
the Chileans have reacted
as a society in
a much more organized
and functional manner.
Order was immediately
restored.
And so just by
extrapolation,
if the world’s climate
changes by raising
a few average degrees,
the Sahara expands,
various rivers start
drying up,
parts of the world that
will be mostly affected
by this will be
near the equator and
where life is hard already.
I really think that we
must do whatever we can
to avoid this happening.
What is your view of
the role of spirituality
in connection with
the current crisis
on our planet?
As a Christian,
the First Commandment
is to love our neighbor,
to love God and love our
neighbor as ourselves.
If our neighbors are going
to suffer great dislocation
because we’re burning
a lot of fossil fuel,
then obviously
our religious duty is to
change our behavior
so that our neighbors
do not suffer great
dislocation or hardship.
That is just the first duty
of anyone who wants to
act in love towards
their neighbor, which is
the great Commandment.
On behalf of
Supreme Master Television
and our viewers,
I want to thank you
for sharing your wisdom
with us.
Thank you so much
for coming up and
talking to me. (Alright)
Great pleasure.
Once again we express
our gratitude to
Dr. John Brandenburg
for speaking about his
in-depth research on Mars
and championing
the protection of our one
and only planetary home.
We wish him
the very best in his future
research endeavors.
For more details
on Dr. Brandenburg,
please visit
“Dead Mars, Dying Earth”
is available at
Loyal viewers,
we thank you for
joining us on
Science and Spirituality.
Words of Wisdom
is next, following
Noteworthy News.
May Heaven’s light
always embrace our planet.
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