A warm welcome,
esteemed viewers,
to this program of
Vegetarian Elite.
Today we are featuring
Grant Aleksander,
a US actor
whose brimming talent
has led to nominations
for three
Daytime Emmy Awards
and seven
Soap Opera Digest Awards,
one of which
he won in 1999.
Grant has garnered
critical acclaim, especially
for his leading role
as Phillip Spaulding
for three decades
in the daytime
television drama
“Guiding Light.”
The well-known series
is credited by
the Guinness Book
of World Records
as the longest running
soap opera
in television history.
In addition to being
among the finest actors,
Grant is also a spiritual
person who cherishes
the lives of all beings.
For me,
it always came down to
if I had the choice
to kill an animal for food
or eat something else
instead, I would always
eat something else instead.
My wish isn’t so much for
the four-legged animals,
it is more for
the two-legged animals –
that we find a way
to look at ourselves
as human beings,
as a part of something.
Animals have that ability
to just love freely
and openly,
asking nothing in return.
Grant Aleksander was born
in Baltimore, Maryland
in 1959.
Throughout
his illustrious career
spanning three decades,
he has acted in
such diverse productions
as “The Crucible” and
“The Glass Menagerie,”
as well as in title roles
for both “Manson”
and “Hamlet.”
He has been seen
on stage in Baltimore
for “The Prime
of Miss Jean Brodie” and
“Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.”
While in Los Angeles,
Grant has had guest roles
on several primetime
television series,
including “Hardcastle
and McCormick,”
“Who’s the Boss?”
and “The Fall Guy.”
I’ve spent most of my time
as a professional actor
working in soap operas
or daytime dramas,
the longest period
on one show,
called “Guiding Light”
which has recently
gone off the air, but was on
for spanning six decades.
And I worked
on another show,
“All My Children,”
for about three years.
If you have
a really good story
that you tell over
a long period of time,
that’s usually
what hooks people.
And “Guiding Light” always
had very good actors.
They told stories
that connected with
basic people at
very fundamental levels.
They told stories
that engaged people.
We told these stories
in real time
with very, very
well developed characters.
And I think that’s why
people liked them.
The versatile actor
has also been
in a number of films
such as the comedy
“The Big Bad Swim,”
and “Tough Guys”
with legendary
Hollywood icons
Burt Lancaster
and Kirk Douglas.
Making movies
is vastly different from
doing most television work.
Doing nighttime
television is similar to,
is shot in the style as film
and there’s more time.
When you work sort of
in the trenches of TV,
particularly if you’re doing
three-camera video,
there’s no time.
You get a script
in your hand and
you learn it overnight
and you generally only
get one or maybe two takes
to get it out.
So you have to really
make your choices quickly,
you have to
have a good memory.
When you work in TV,
you are geared to do
your best work right away.
Making movies
is wonderful
from the standpoint
that you’ve got this script
that someone
took a lot of time to craft.
So a lot of problems
that you’ll find
in working in TV
at all its levels,
you don’t find
working on a film.
Despite his successful
and busy career,
Grant decided
to return to school
to complete his
Masters of Fine Arts.
This was motivated
by his desire
to fulfil a promise
to his parents
and to be able to
teach young actors
in the future.
I was at NYU
(New York University)
and I dropped out
because I got an agent
and I was starting
to get work.
I was very, very lucky
that whenever
I was looking for work,
I found work.
But my parents
were very unhappy
that I dropped out
in my junior year.
I promised them that
I would eventually do it,
and after our show
went off the air,
I had the time to be able
to get back to it.
Some of my most favorite
times working on
the [soap operas] were
when you would have
the newest group
of young kids
that would come on
and you’d stand back
and watch them
start trying to figure out
what was happening.
And then you’d blink
and all of a sudden
they were incredible.
And you know,
somewhere along that line,
you would see them
making these
little discoveries.
And there was just nothing
that was more satisfying
to me then to be able to
pass on something that
somebody gave to me
when I was a young actor.
Aside from being known
as a dedicated actor,
Mr. Grant Aleksander
is thoroughly respected
for his compassion
for animals.
The long-time vegetarian
is an active supporter
and campaigner
for several worldwide
animal welfare
organizations, including
People
for the Ethical Treatment
of Animals (PETA)
and the Humane Society
of the United States.
Along with his wife
Sherry Ramsey,
an attorney and vegetarian,
they work tirelessly for
the welfare of ill-treated
and abandoned animals.
As humble as he is talented,
Grant credits the work
they do together
to his wonderful wife.
My wife does
all the heavy lifting
in terms of the real animal
working in the family.
She’s an attorney
with Humane Society
and she’s in charge of
cruelty prosecutions,
which is a horrible job,
with the subject matter
that she deals with
all the time.
She has to watch videos
of people doing
horrible things to animals.
People call her from
all over the United States
when they come across
a case of animal cruelty,
so they’re never good calls.
She’s got this
enormous heart, but
she has found a way
of compartmentalizing
the aspects of what happens
in these cases
so that she can figure out
what law is in place
to prosecute people
for these crimes.
She finds the way
to use laws
that are on the books
to make people pay
for doing horrible things
to animals.
And not only that, she
goes around the country
and she trains prosecutors
and she trains judges
about laws because
they vary state to state.
She’s an expert in state law
and in federal law
and how to apply it.
I’ve loved animals
my whole life.
I always had dogs
when I was a kid.
My dog would just give
me unconditional love
and it’s the only real source
of unconditional love
that you get on the planet
because they’re so pure.
We have a lot of
rescue animals
and taking care of them
takes a lot of time
and lot of love
and a lot of effort.
And the worst part of it is
when you have
a lot of animals,
losing them frequently,
that’s the most difficult part.
But they give so much love
and so much joy.
We rescue animals
when they come, when
we find them in a road.
If I have a second
to think about my life
before I die, it’ll be
one of few things I know
I’ll be really proud of.
Incidentally,
Sherry was also the person
who helped Grant realize
that he needed become
a vegetarian again.
And I saw these little pigs
in this pen,
and the little baby piglets
looked like little puppies.
And I said,
“Oh God, you’re so..,”
I was bending down
and I put my hand up
to the thing
and one came over
and snuffled me.
And my wife leaned down
right next to me
and very softly said,
“He still eats you.”
And I swear
this little pig turned
and looked at me, like...
And for me, I realized
I can’t do this anymore.
And…
And you’ve been a
vegetarian for how long?
A vegetarian for,
let me see, probably
getting close to 30 years
now, maybe 26, 27 years
something like that.
I know
it makes me healthier.
There’s no question
in my mind.
It’s kind of always a voice
that’s inside of you.
I remember
when I was a kid,
my mom took me to,
she was just trying
to save money.
We went out
to a meat packer’s
to get our cuts of beef.
And it’s the first time,
I think
I was five or six years old
that I made the connection
between the steak
that I’m eating
and this animal
that it’s coming from.
And it just horrified me
and I don’t remember
how long I refused
to eat meat. .
And then,
my mom ground it up,
put it in spaghetti
and before long it was
sort of not something
I thought about
for another 10 years.
And then,
Sherry and I get together.
And she started saying,
“I just don’t think
I can eat this anymore.
I want to stop doing this.”
And I was reluctant
at first.
But my wife is extremely
good putting things
in just fundamental,
that’s why
she’s a great attorney,
in fundamental arguments
of logical fairness.
And for me,
it always came down to,
if I had the choice
to kill an animal for food
or eat something else
instead, I would always
eat something else instead.
So to be eating food
that someone else
has killed for me,
just makes me a hypocrite.
(Right, yeah.)
Most of us in our society
become further and further
removed from
our food source.
It’s not good
for our health,
and it’s not good for us
ethically or morally
either, because
it allows us a level
of distance and cover.
We don’t want to think
about the unpleasantness,
children starving
or kids that have cancer
or old people that are
shoved in a wheelchair
into a corner,
or veal calves that
have their necks strapped
into a crate and
are not allowed to move
so that their flesh
can be pale and tender
for a veal piccata.
We don’t want to
think about those things.
That’s why we very often
call meat something else.
We call it a hamburger.
We call it a veal.
We don’t call it what it is
because we’re trying
to disguise it even further
so that we don’t have to
really deal with
the consequences
of those actions.
You’re destroying
the environment
that your children
are going to inherit.
For every pound of beef
that is produced, what
you do the groundwater,
the methane production,
the pesticides
that are used on the feed,
the antibiotics that are
used to prevent disease –
all of these,
all of those arguments
can be very potent
because they affect
a human being’s
living circumstances.
Right. Exactly. Yeah.
And what is your wish for
the animals in this world?
My wish isn’t so much for
the four-legged animals,
it is more for
the two-legged animals –
that we find a way
to look at ourselves
as human beings,
as a part of something,
and not as masters
of something.
A lot of it goes back
to eating meat.
This is where it gets touchy
talking to people
because as long as
you’re killing animals
for food, it’s very difficult
to treat them humanely.
Because
you’re essentially saying
that their life
does not have a value
that is worth preserving.
(Exactly.)
Matt Scully wrote
a great book,
and he is a great example.
Matt was a speech writer
for George Bush Matt’s
a big animal guy.
And he wrote this book
called “Dominion.”
It’s a faith-based belief
and in his case, that
God has given us dominion
over these creatures.
And because
we have dominion,
it’s incumbent upon us
to treat them humanely.
On August 27, 2011
Grant Aleksander
joined four other
veg Hollywood stars as
the Masters of Ceremonies
for Supreme Master
Television’s
5th Anniversary
extravaganza, featuring
“The Real Love” musical
and the legendary
Don McLean in concert.
This grand event at the
Pasadena Civic Auditorium
featured Oscar-,
Grammy-, Tony-, and
Emmy Award-winning
artists who came together
in honor of
Supreme Master
Ching Hai’s dedication
to uplifting our world.
It’s my pleasure to be here.
It’s all new to me.
I didn’t really know
very much about the group
until they asked me
to come, but
I’m very impressed with
all the work that you do.
I think everything that I see
the Supreme Master
Ching Hai is doing.
I’m for peace and love
anywhere you can find it,
you’re to spread it,
to all living things.
Hi, I’m Grant Aleksander.
And you’re watching
Supreme Master
Television.
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Thank you,
Grant Aleksander, for
being a shining example
for humanity
and our co-inhabitants.
We are grateful to you
and your wife
Sherry Ramsey for your
outstanding efforts
to make the world
a kinder place
for humans and animals.
We wish you both
continuous success
and countless blessings
in your endeavors.
Gracious viewers,
thank you
for your presence today
on Vegetarian Elite.
Coming up next is
Between Master
and Disciples,
here on
Supreme Master Television.
May your noble heart
be the guiding light
in all your paths.