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Today, we will meet the
internationally acclaimed
dancer, choreographer
and scholar
Dr. Anthony Shay.
During his career which
spans half a century,
Dr. Anthony Shay has
specialized in dances
from Eastern Europe,
the Middle East,
North Africa, and Asia,
and has created over
200 choreographies.
Dr. Shay received
numerous awards for
his work, including
commendations from
former US President
Bill Clinton and the City
Council of Los Angeles,
USA for excellence
in his choreographies.
In 1977,
Dr. Shay received a PhD
in dance history from the
University of California,
Riverside, USA.
Currently, he serves as
an assistant professor in
dance and cultural studies
at Pomona College,
California.
We had the honor to meet
Dr. Anthony Shay, who
told us how he came into
contact with dances
of different cultures and,
particularly close to
his heart,
with Iranian culture.
I was born here in
Los Angeles, in south
central Los Angeles.
And it was a very
ethnically mixed area.
It seemed to me that
the Armenian kids and
the Greek kids, and
all the kids who were
in my school - they all
had colorful music,
and colorful dances,
and colorful food.
Eventually, at the Los
Angeles City College,
the talented Dr. Shay
obtained a Bachelor’s
degree in international
relations and music, with
the goal of becoming
a professional flutist.
When I went to
that school, there were
over a thousand
foreign students on what
they call the Visa
American Program.
And it was here that
I encountered
my first experience of
other people’s dances
and music, and
what a lot of it there was!
And I met in my class
this Iranian young man.
And he said,
“I don’t know
how to speak English.
I took classes.
Could you help me
learn English?”
So I would help him
after class.
And then he started
teaching me something
of Persian.
So, one of
his friends came one day
and said, “You’ll never
learn this language,
much too difficult,
no foreigners ever
learn Persian.”
So I said, “Okay,
I’m going to learn it
in six months.”
Well, I did!
I followed them around
and after six months,
I had taught myself,
because I was listening to
what they were saying
and writing it down
in English letters.
The cousin of Dr. Shay’s
Iranian friend was
an accomplished dancer
who was always
looking for someone
to dance with her.
And so, Dr. Shay came to
know Iranian dance.
I started learning the
dance and the aesthetic
of it was magic for me.
It was entering a world
of jewels and crystal,
and it was all geometry.
I could feel it in the way
you moved your arms,
your hands, I could
feel that geometry.
I taught myself
how to read and write.
When I did that, I could
feel that connection
between the writing that
I was learning to do
and the dancing
and the movements that
I was learning to do
at the same time.
I was getting very much
involved in the dance of
these different groups
that I was experiencing,
because Los Angeles
had all of these
different groups.
By this time I was
really involved in
Iranian culture as well,
because I had learned
the language,
I read the literature
by now quite regularly.
Someone gave me “The
Rubaiyat of Khayyam,”
first one I ever read
all by myself
and understood it –
I thought I’d died and
gone to Heaven.
So, here I was involved
in the dance
which is a really
a visual embodiment of
Iranian art in general
and its geometric basis.
And then I discovered
of course the dances
composed by each
individual dancer
in the same way that
architects create mosques
with the use of a tomar,
and that they take these
motifs, and
they combine them
in new and fresh ways.
And Iranian dance and
music, which is taught by
short musical phrases
in each gushe,
and poetry, of course.
When the Iranian ambassador
came to visit
Minneapolis, USA,
Dr. Shay was invited to
perform as an exceptional
“honorary Iranian” dancer.
Then, in 1958, he was
invited to come to Iran.
As a result of that,
they invited me to
come to Iran and
become a student at
the University of Tehran,
I said, “Oh, yes!”
So I went to Iran
and I entered
a whole new world.
I received
a very nice education.
And I really got involved
in the music there.
Dr. Shay studied at
the literature faculty at
the University of Tehran.
During this time, he also
met many musicians,
including the legendary
Iranian musician
and composer Ostad
Gholam-Hossein Banan.
I had been listening to
his records for four years,
and I was just entranced.
He asked me if could sing
a tasnif, which is
a form of music that is
in the classical as well as
the popular tradition,
and is rhythmic.
Also the Tehran Symphony
had auditions
and so I auditioned,
and they took me!
So I was First Chair,
the principle flutist for
the Tehran Symphony
for the next two seasons.
So I met a lot of fellow
musicians at that time.
While staying in Iran,
Dr. Anthony Shay also
had the opportunity
to witness firsthand
the performance of
folk dances in
various areas of Iran.
That was my first major
experience of field work,
of being able to actually
go out and see people
in the context dancing
at a wedding, dancing
out the moving the tribes,
from the Qeshlagh
to the Yeylagh and so on.
That was very formative
and I realized that
something had changed
in me, that I wasn't
learning dances
through someone else,
I was actually
experiencing them
and seeing them.
Upon returning to the
United States, in 1960,
Dr. Shay started
his first dance group,
The Village Dancers.
I said, I'm going to teach
them some of the dances
that I learned in Iran,
and for performance.
It's a very improvised
form of dance, so
if you want to turn it into
something more formal,
all the movements are
there for you to assemble,
in a way.
So I started teaching
dances from Iran,
from Croatia,
from Serbia and so on.
The Village Dancers
evolved into the AMAN
International Music and
Dance Company and
was co-directed by
Anthony Shay and
accomplished dancer
Leona Wood.
In 1977, Dr. Anthony Shay
founded a new
dance company,
the AVAZ International
Dance Theater.
The focus of AVAZ
increasingly became
that of Iranian dance
in its widest historical
and cultural meaning.
AVAZ became
one of the oldest Iranian
cultural organizations
outside of Iran.
We were beginning to
get hundreds and then
thousands of Iranians
who are displaced.
So we started to prepare
all-Iranian programs,
where we would do
from the various regions
of Iran.
And, and I think
in many ways,
we provided sort of
an anchor for them to
hang on to culturally
while they were trying
to adjust to this
very new environment.
Tony is amazing.
I think whoever watches
television programs,
Persian television
programs,
they know Tony Shay.
He knows a lot
about Iranian history,
Iranian literature, and
he knows a lot about –
everything about Iran!
That is why, sometimes
I call him… I would
give him honorary
Iranian citizenship.
His is truly an authority.
He dedicated his life
and learning.
I know he generated a lot
of exciting programs for
the Iranian community
as well as the people
of Azerbaijan and
Central Asia and
the Arabic community.
In all the events, I think,
he always enjoyed
what he was doing.
And that was the sole
reason, in my opinion,
that drove him.
I think that the Iranian
community owes a lot
to Anthony Shay
for what he’s doing.
In 1992, at the age of 57,
Dr. Shay started to study
for a doctorate degree
at the University of
California Riverside in
dance history and theory.
His PhD thesis was later
published as a book
under the title
“Choreophobia:
Solo Improvised Dance
in the Iranian World.”
Since then, Dr. Shay
has written many books
about dance, including
“Choreographic Politics”
and “Dancing
across Borders.”
Dance can be a means
of almost an entry.
For me, it is an entry
to learn the language,
to learn the music,
to learn the poetry.
That makes Iran
what it is as
a wonderful civilization
of so many years,
that has created through
the Hakhamaneshi period,
the Sasanian period,
through the Islamic
period.
And Iranians today
are the inheritors of this
legacy of generations and
generations of creativity,
in language, in art,
in music.
I cannot be deprived
from the joy of
reading Hafez poetry.
Right now it brings tears
to my eyes,
because I am thinking,
“How beautiful
his poems are.”
Fortunately,
through dance
I found a gateway,
I took a glance, and
I entered a new world,
which made me
overjoyed.
You have presented an
aspect of Iranian culture
to the people
of other countries,
through all these dances
you have performed.
For me this was kind of
giving back what I owed;
I could create these
dances on the stage,
after all the hospitality
that Iranians showered
upon me
while I was in Iran, and
those who came here and
were in need of help,
since they lost their
culture in a new country.
At the time,
through these dances
I could repay some
of what I owed them,
for all the beauty
that they presented to me
as a gift.
If you want to share
one good aspect,
one good experience
from Iran
with our viewers,
what would that be?
In all things,
Iranians have one shared
characteristic, and
that’s their hospitality,
and I learned that
from them.
When people come here,
I offer them tea.
I learned Tarof (Persian
system of etiquette).
In this respect
Iranians know the art of
hospitality better than
anyone in the world.
Would you like to send
a message to Iranian or
Persian speaking viewers?
I would like to thank you,
all cherished
Iranian viewers,
for all the artistic gifts
you have given me,
and I wish a bright future
for all of you.
Thank you.
Our sincere appreciation,
Dr. Anthony Shay,
for your dedication
in sharing the beauty of
Iranian dance and culture
with the world.
Wishing you the best
of health,
may your artistic
scholarly contributions
continue to help build
bridges and enrich
our understanding of
one another’s cultures.
Thank you,
graceful viewers,
for joining us today on
Enlightening
Entertainment.
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Divine love and light.