Welcome, 
conscientious viewers, 
to Healthy Living. 
This week we examine 
how the vegan lifestyle 
can significantly lower 
the cost of food, 
health insurance 
and healthcare while 
promoting wellness.
We’ll hear the views 
of three individuals 
in the US who’ve made 
important contributions 
to the field of public health: 
Dr. Pamela Popper, 
a vegan nutrition expert, 
naturopath, and founder 
and Executive Director 
of the Wellness Forum, 
Dr. Neal Barnard, 
a vegan physician, 
researcher, bestselling 
author and President of 
the Physicians Committee 
for Responsible Medicine 
and Ellen Jaffe 
Jones, a vegan former 
Emmy-winning 
TV investigative reporter 
and anchor, certified 
personal-fitness trainer 
and author of 
“Eat Vegan on $4 a Day.” 
Food Costs
We hear first 
from Ms. Jaffe Jones, 
who shares 
how a plant-based diet, 
free from meat, fish, eggs 
and dairy products, 
can substantially reduce 
our grocery bills. 
I wrote, 
"Eat Vegan on $4 a Day" 
because I saw so many 
stories on the news 
that said you can't 
eat well on a budget. 
I just felt like reporters 
need more resources than 
that very biased opinion 
that, in order to 
eat healthy, it has to 
cost a lot of money. 
I have eaten this way 
most of the last 30 years. 
So I knew personally 
that it wasn't true. 
And I also knew that 
it costs so much money 
when you don't eat 
this way, not only 
at the grocery store, 
but then when you start 
getting the diseases 
of affluence 
like cancer, diabetes, 
and heart disease. 
You know, 
a bypass surgery 
in the United States 
can cost upwards 
of US$100,000 
to US$200,000. 
So if you really 
average out, as 
we liked to do when I was 
a financial consultant, 
the cost 
of that bypass surgery 
into the cost 
of a US$5 burger, 
that US$5 burger may 
actually cost like US$100 
or US$1,000, 
depending on 
how many years you live 
and how many burgers 
you eat. 
So it's not just as simple 
as what you save 
at the grocery store. 
It's the amount of money 
you have to pay 
when you get sick 
or when you have to 
go to the hospital 
or when you have to 
hire people to help you 
when you are so debilitated.   
How is it possible to eat 
on just US$4 a day? 
It is simpler 
than one might think.
The big secret to 
eating well on US$4 a day 
is buying foods in bulk, 
and buying them 
when they're on sale. 
For example, 
a big bag of beans 
at a big box store 
is about 10 cents 
for a four-ounce serving 
of cooked beans, 
with high fiber, and is 
a great source of protein. 
You compare that 
at the same big box store 
to the cheapest form 
of hamburger meat. 
Now that's going 
to be 30% fat. 
I don't know what else is 
in the other 70%, 
stuff you wouldn't want 
to eat anyway. 
But that is going 
to cost about 60 cents. 
So burger meat is six times 
more expensive 
than bean protein. 
And if you start going 
to more expensive cuts 
of meat like tenderloin, 
for example, it's going 
to be even more expensive. 
And if you go to 
a restaurant, 
it's going to be 
even more expensive. 
So, you really 
save a lot of money 
by eating bean protein. 
And even if you don't buy 
the biggest bag of beans, 
canned beans are 
only twice as expensive 
as cooking beans 
from scratch. 
And it's just 
not a big deal to 
cook beans from scratch. 
My book has a lot of tips 
on how to do that 
in a quick way, 
in an easy way. 
I give all the proportions 
of water to beans. 
So if people have 
never cooked beans 
from scratch, 
it's not a big deal.  
Ms. Jaffe Jones has 
several recommendations 
regarding shopping 
for groceries. 
First, make sure you eat 
before going shopping, 
as we tend to buy 
“impulse foods” 
when we’re hungry. 
Second, purchase 
fruits and vegetables 
when they’re in season 
or on sale. 
Third, if the price of some 
of the fruits or veggies 
is exceptionally good, 
buy extra quantities and 
freeze or dehydrate them 
for use in the winter months 
when prices 
are much higher. 
There's a great deal 
of variety 
in a plant-based diet, 
even eating on US$4 a day. 
The big secret to 
eating on US$4 a day, is, 
“beans, greens, 
and grains.” 
The more extended answer 
is to cook foods 
in their natural states.
Stay away from the frozen 
processed food aisles. 
Shop the perimeter 
of the store. 
But it's very easy 
to have beans be 
the source of your protein, 
whether it's lunch 
or dinner. 
You can combine it 
with a wholegrain, 
and even grains are only 
about 5 cents to 10 cents 
more expensive 
per ounce than beans. 
So when you 
combine those two, 
you get all your calories. 
And then you have 
plenty of money left over 
to go buy the vegetables 
and the fruits that might be 
a little more expensive. 
But even a banana 
costs only 22 cents. 
So it is nature's 
perfect “fast food.” 
You just don't need 
to buy Twinkies. 
For the price 
of one Twinkie, you can 
have three servings 
of bean protein. 
So you really can 
save your health so much 
by looking at 
different options 
in the plant kingdom. 
People say, "Well, isn't that 
kind of a boring diet?" 
And I go, "Excuse me? 
There are 90 different 
fruits and vegetables 
out there. 
So if you don't like one or 
two fruits or vegetables, 
try another one."  
Produce comes 
in a wide range of colors, 
and for good reason.
Nature gave us 
these beautiful colors 
and foods. Why? 
So we would eat them; 
so we would be 
attracted to them. 
And I like to say, "Eat 
the colors of the rainbow, 
because nature 
did a great job in putting 
almost every color 
with an associated 
anti-oxidant or nutrient 
or vitamin that makes you 
just want to crave 
that purple cabbage 
or the eggplant 
or a red apple 
or a yellow squash." 
There are just so many 
different colors out there. 
They're great 
and they're cheap. 
Many meat-based recipes 
can easily be converted into 
delicious, money-saving 
vegan dishes.
An example 
of a specific recipe 
would be if you're 
used to making chili 
with hamburger meat. 
Given the example 
of beans costing 10 cents 
versus the same quantity 
serving of hamburger meat 
costing 60 cents, 
just in that meal alone, 
if you're cooking 
for your family, 
you can see how 
this would multiply out 
not only over that meal 
but over that day, 
the course of a week, 
the course of a year 
and a lifetime. 
The savings are really 
phenomenal when you 
start multiplying this out. 
And that's just the food 
that costs money 
at the grocery store. 
When you figure out 
that you don't need 
the US$100,000 
bypass surgery, 
the savings are tremendous.  
One of the best ways 
to save money and 
improve one’s health is 
to avoid purchasing 
processed foods.
Cookies and crackers 
are probably 
some of the worst kinds 
of processed foods 
that you can buy, 
in part because 
they’re so addictive, 
but they’re also 
very expensive. 
So if you are eating rice 
as a whole grain by itself, 
that’s going to cost you 
maybe 10 cents 
to 15 cents 
for a quarter-cup serving 
(45 grams), 
and that’s going to 
fill you up for that meal, 
as opposed to 
a package of cookies, 
which costs 
maybe US$3-US$4. 
Another big one 
would be cereals 
that are very processed 
and very expensive, 
in the big boxes. 
Then when you look 
inside the box there’s 
not quite so much inside, 
and a whole a lot of sugar, 
a lot of 
high fructose corn syrup 
in many products, 
a lot of added sugar 
in different forms. 
What I like to eat 
in the morning is 
a quarter cup of oats, 
and that cooks 
into a half-cup serving. 
And I add some fruit to that 
and that costs me 
maybe 20-25 cents; 
verses 50 cents to a dollar 
for a grocery store 
serving of 
the same quantity. 
And that doesn’t 
even include the fruit. 
 
Once people experience 
how wonderful they feel 
and how much money 
they save 
on a plant-based diet, 
they become 
enthusiastic advocates 
of the vegan way.  
My book has only been 
out four months 
and already I'm getting 
a tremendous response 
from people on Facebook. 
I have close to 
4,000 followers, 
and the response really 
has been amazing. 
People are getting the book 
and within a week 
of reading it saying, 
"I'm already 
seeing a difference." 
And some of the people 
are already vegan. 
Some of them are not. 
So especially, 
when they're not vegan 
and they trade out 
a few meat meals a week 
for bean protein, 
for example, 
they really start to see 
some significant savings. 
And if it's more than 
just them, say they have 
a family of four, 
it's really quite noticeable. 
And I give a lot of tips 
in the book 
about how to save money 
at the grocery store. 
And it's important 
to understand that it's not 
just looking for beans 
in quantity 
but there are other ways 
to save money, 
like understanding 
that products, especially 
the more expensive 
products, are placed 
right in front of your eyes, 
at eye level, 
so you will be sure 
to buy those things. 
And understanding 
what the stores are doing 
to try to get us to buy 
is important, too. 
Healthcare Costs
But saving money 
on grocery bills 
is only the beginning. 
Consuming animal products 
leads to many serious, 
life-threatening illnesses 
which are 
entirely preventable.
It is really important 
that you understand you 
will save not only money 
in the choices of the food 
that you buy, but 
by avoiding the diseases 
and illnesses that making 
poor food selections 
will cause. 
Many people tell me, 
and I certainly have had 
this experience, that once 
they adopt a vegan diet, 
they don’t get sick. 
Every time 
when I was younger 
and I used to run 
a great distance 
like six miles, 
I would get sick 
like clockwork. 
And since I have adopted 
a plant-based diet, 
I just never get sick. 
When most people 
make this change, 
they never go back. 
They are amazed how 
delicious the food tastes, 
how colorful and vibrant 
it is, how energized 
they feel by it. 
And then, when 
they start saving money 
on their medical bills, 
they’re going like, “Well, 
why didn’t I start this 
20 years ago?” 
And how much time is lost 
because they didn’t 
start it sooner. 
So my advice would be: 
“Do it now. Don’t waste 
another minute.” 
You’re going 
to have so much energy. 
You’re going 
to save so much money, 
and I think it’s something 
that you will never regret. 
Mounting scientific 
research is revealing 
the direct relationship 
between eating 
animal-based foods 
and rapidly climbing 
healthcare costs. 
In 1995, Dr. Neal Barnard 
and colleagues conducted 
an extensive study 
comparing the prevalence 
of hypertension, cancer, 
diabetes, gallbladder 
disease, obesity-related 
musculoskeletal disorders 
and food-borne diseases 
in meat eaters and 
vegetarians in the US. 
The researchers 
then calculated 
the medical costs, including 
needed physician 
and hospital services 
and prescription drugs, 
due to meat consumption.
When we compare people 
who eat meat and 
those who don’t eat meat, 
the people who eat meat 
have a higher risk 
of certain diseases, 
heart disease, 
certain forms of cancer, 
high blood pressure, 
diabetes, obesity 
and some others. 
And when we look at 
the frequency 
of those diseases, 
and we associate 
the added healthcare costs 
that come with them, 
we could determine 
the proportion 
that’s attributable 
to meat consumption. 
And the result is shocking: 
Meat consumption 
increases healthcare costs 
in the billions of dollars 
every year.
In the US we’re 
in the trillions of dollars 
in medical costs. 
And a very substantial 
portion of that 
is related to the fact 
that the Americans follow 
a very unhealthy diet. 
And unfortunately 
it's getting worse 
year by year. 
In the 1990s, 
we calculated that 
US$30- to US$60-billion 
of medical costs 
were directly attributable 
to meat consumption, 
just for a very few 
health conditions. 
We were being 
very conservative. 
Since that time, 
it's been 15 or more years, 
those costs have 
escalated dramatically.  
Consumption 
of animal products 
is the primary cause of 
heart attacks and strokes 
which, according to the 
World Health Organization, 
are the world’s 
most common diseases, 
and account for 
about 23% of 
all annual deaths globally. 
We know 
that in the United States, 
the cost of a (coronary) 
bypass surgery, 
just one bypass can be 
between US$100,000 
and US$200,000. 
So if you are able to 
avoid that surgery, 
whether you pay for it, 
the insurance company 
pays for it 
or the government 
pays for it, that is just 
for one person. 
If you multiply that by 
all the heart procedures 
that could be avoided, 
I think billions of dollars 
could be saved, billions. 
And the bottom line is 
preventable diseases 
are just not sustainable. 
It doesn’t matter 
who pays for them. 
It’s not only the medicine 
that is used 
to treat cancer, but 
the caregiver expenses 
that must be maintained. 
Again, billions of dollars 
will be saved 
if we can avoid 
just one of these diseases. 
So the numbers add up 
really fast, and we have 
very clear data on the cost 
of caring for people 
with various conditions. 
If you have 
multiple sclerosis 
in the United States, it’s 
about US$50,000 a year 
to take care of you. 
So, somebody’s 
insurance company is 
paying for that; 
diabetes, US$11,777; 
Crohn's disease, 
30-some thousand dollars. 
Those are all diseases 
we can get rid of. 
And then what’s the cost? 
Zero.
According to the Centers 
for Disease Control 
and Prevention, 
68% of all adults 
and nearly one-third 
of children in the US 
are considered either 
overweight or obese, 
and these conditions 
often lead to diabetes, 
a leading cause of 
blindness, amputations, 
and loss of kidney function. 
Diabetes is 
an enormous drain on 
the US healthcare system, 
costing an estimated 
US$128 billion 
in 2010 alone.
We have got to do 
something about kids. 
And parents have a lot of 
erroneous attitudes 
about food, 
some of which are 
a result of advertising. 
Our kids’ diets 
are getting worse 
at younger ages, 
and so they're getting 
sicker and fatter earlier. 
And the ramifications 
with this are severe 
because when you start out 
your adult life sick 
and overweight, 
the cost monetarily 
is outrageous. 
But the cost in terms of 
the quality of your life 
is horrendous. 
When I was 20 years old, 
I thought I was invincible. 
I don't see a lot of 
20-year-olds feeling 
that way about themselves 
right now. 
They're tired, they’re sick, 
they're overweight. 
I can outrun 
most 25-year-olds in 
the gym and a yoga class.
Skyrocketing 
medical expenses 
are not only a concern 
in the US, but in many 
other countries as well.
The health costs do differ, 
but the trend 
that we are seeing 
in almost every country 
is towards increasing 
meat consumption, and 
that follows increasing 
affluence and increasing 
ease of distribution. 
In China, meat intake has 
increased by about 50% 
in the last 10 years, 
and behind it will come 
more and more diabetes, 
more and more 
healthcare costs, 
more and more expenditure.
Supreme Master Ching Hai 
has also spoken 
on many occasions about 
the extremely high price 
of eating meat, 
as during this excerpt 
from a September 2008 
interview on the US-based 
Environmentally 
Sound Radio. 
Meat eating 
cause heart disease, 
over 17 million people 
perish each year 
due to heart attack 
and high blood pressure. 
I’m talking all this 
according to the World 
Health Organization, 
and United States 
health agencies etc., etc. 
Twenty million people 
survive heart attack 
but related ongoing cost 
of their case is enormous. 
The cost of burden of 
cardiovascular diseases 
to individual 
and government alone 
in United States is 
US$700 billion per year! 
It’s not me 
who is speaking. 
It’s your 
government research. 
And now, cancer, 
more than 940,000 
colon cancer cases yearly 
and nearly 
a half a million people 
die from it each year. 
In the US alone, 
cancer treatment 
cost US$6.5 billion. 
Billion!
Prostrate and bladder 
cancer affects more than 
half a million people 
every year.
Researchers have identified 
chemical substance in 
cooked, fried and grilled 
meat that’s considered 
direct cause of cancer 
and people who eat beef 
4 or more times a week 
are found to be 
4 times as likely to be 
having colon cancer than 
those consuming less. 
And concerning diabetes, 
246 million people 
worldwide 
are affected by this. 
And the cost of it 
is US$174 billion. 
Add it all together 
from the top up to now, 
how many billions 
we spent just concerning 
treating people with 
meat-related diseases. 
And that’s 
in the United States alone. 
And obesity is 1.6 billion 
adults are overweight 
with 400 million more 
who are obese.
The cost 
of individual treatment 
for that is US$93 billion 
per year and another 
2.6 million people 
die from problems related 
to being overweight. 
How much do firms 
in the US spend on 
employee health insurance? 
What is the connection 
between the vegan diet 
and company productivity? 
Our experts answer 
these and other questions 
after this brief pause. 
Please stay tuned 
to Supreme Master 
Television.
Welcome back to 
Healthy Living, 
as we continue 
with our program 
on how the vegan diet 
can promote wellness 
while substantially 
reducing healthcare costs.
The estimated amount 
expended on healthcare 
in the USA is now 
over US$2 trillion a year, 
more than any other 
industrialized country 
in the world. 
This steadily rising figure 
means ever higher 
health insurance premiums 
for both individuals 
and companies.
So many people, especially 
in the United States 
are going bankrupt 
because they can't afford 
either insurance 
or the diseases 
that they're getting, 
that insurance companies 
won't pay for, 
or can't pay for. 
The average employee is 
costing their company 
on a family plan, 
something in the vicinity 
of $1,500 a month. 
That’s a lot of money. 
That’s a lot of money. 
Some plans 
are more expensive, 
some plans 
are less expensive, 
but any way you cut it, 
it’s a lot of money. 
Illnesses caused by eating 
meat, dairy and eggs 
not only drive up 
healthcare costs, 
they also cripple 
company productivity.
You have a lot of 
direct costs and then 
you have indirect costs. 
If somebody doesn’t 
show up for work today, 
that’s one thing, but then 
if they show up for work 
not feeling very well 
day after day, and their 
productivity is decreased, 
that’s a little harder 
to measure. 
It's the person that 
calls you at seven 
in the morning and says, 
“I’m not coming in 
today, I’m sick.” 
Or, “I’m not coming in 
today because 
I have a sick child.” 
And so here you’ve 
a company with maybe 
12 or 15 employees 
and now we got to 
scramble around and 
cover this person’s work 
and we were going to 
have a staff meeting today 
but we can’t do it 
without this key person. 
Solutions
What is the solution to 
these rapidly accelerating 
health-related expenses? 
Health insurance 
companies have begun to 
recognize the importance 
of what we eat. 
Scott Forslund, 
Vice President of 
Corporate Communications 
for Premera  
Blue Cross, 
a health insurer in the US, 
has stated, 
“The connection 
between a vegetarian diet 
and reducing the costs 
of these high-impact 
health conditions 
is clear as a bell.” 
Dr. Popper, 
Ellen Jaffe Jones, 
and Dr. Neal Barnard 
all agree that the best way 
to reduce 
healthcare expenditures 
is through communities 
embracing 
the plant strong diet.
So I think this is really, 
at least in my mind, 
very much a solution, 
that if everybody 
went vegan, we would 
save so much money 
in insurance 
and medical costs. 
The solution's so simple. 
It’s the food. 
And it’s so simple that 
people have trouble 
believing it. 
Everybody is looking for 
some new discovery, 
some new procedure. 
(But) it’s the food. 
All we have to do is 
teach them how to 
eat different stuff. 
And contrary to popular 
belief, their grocery bill 
goes down. 
This is not 
an expensive way to eat. 
It’s a very cheap way 
to eat, actually. 
And so, again, it’s 
back to everybody wins. 
If the entire US population 
could somehow all adopt 
a healthy vegan diet, 
we would easily 
save US$150 billion, 
every single year, 
this year, next year, 
and next year. 
That will be a big burden 
off of the taxpayers, 
but also off of the 
government and the state 
and local governments 
as well.
That figure that I just gave 
doesn’t include the cost 
of disability, lost income 
and when a person 
can’t work, and they 
can't pay taxes anymore, 
or they need 
long-term nursing care. 
The cost I gave was just 
for the doctors’ bills, 
and the hospital bills and 
the prescription costs alone. 
It is many times higher 
when we include those 
extra indirect costs. 
There are so many cases 
where a person already 
has a disease 
or a health condition, 
when they change their diet, 
everything does get better. 
So, for example, a person 
has got extra weight 
or diabetes, hypertension, 
or even artery blockages 
that lead to heart disease. 
When they change 
their diet, 
all of those things improve. 
And then 
all the medical costs 
that they’re using 
for treating them, whether 
that’s for medications 
or doctor visits, 
that all drops as well, and 
it can drop dramatically.
And I’m amazed 
at how many women 
probably could have 
avoided a hysterectomy 
if they’d had a doctor 
who said, “Why don’t try 
a plant-based (diet).” 
And I am also astounded 
at the amount of money 
that could be saved 
with women 
who are seeking answers 
in the medical community 
for menopause treatments. 
If they could just try a, 
plant-based diet. 
Food really 
is powerful medicine. 
That’s now pretty clear 
that if a person follows a 
healthy, plant-based diet, 
it will really promote 
health in a good way. 
The next step, though, 
is how to implement it 
practically. 
So we have 
a couple of models 
that I think are useful. 
One is 
in the business setting. 
You can offer healthy, 
vegan meals right 
in the company cafeteria. 
And you can offer 
a little bit of assistance 
to people who want 
to make a diet change. 
It’s easy to do, and 
the business saves money. 
We’ve tested it at 
one of America’s biggest 
auto insurance companies, 
and they loved it. 
The second model is 
in office practices. 
Instead of doctors 
just treating one patient 
at a time, in addition to that, 
the patients can come 
into the waiting room 
all as a group. 
And you do a cooking class. 
And you do it once a week. 
So they may see 
the doctor here and there, 
but if you give them 
extra support 
in changing their diet, 
it makes the doctor’s life 
a whole lot easier. 
We’ve tested that out 
and it works really well. 
So if we give people 
the tools at work, 
at the doctor’s office, 
in schools where people are, 
to help them 
change their diet, 
I think that’s going 
to really be the answer.
In the US, one can 
purchase a hamburger 
at a fast-food outlet 
for 99 cents. 
A study by the Center for 
Science and Environment 
estimated that 
the true cost of 
a hamburger in the US, 
including 
government subsidies to 
the livestock industry, 
the harm to public health 
from consuming beef and 
environmental damage 
caused by producing it 
is US$200. 
Given its 
wide-ranging health 
and financial benefits, 
Dr. Barnard believes that 
the plant-based lifestyle 
should also be 
highly encouraged 
by the US government.
Right now, 
our government 
in the United States 
really needs 
to change its focus. 
It’s very much focused 
on promoting 
agricultural products, 
increasing 
cheese consumption, and 
promoting high prices 
for meat. 
And to do that, it buys up 
meat and cheese 
and puts it in schools, 
for example. 
And the dietary guidelines 
are not very progressive. 
All of those things 
need to change so that 
children are getting 
lots of the vegetables 
and fruits that they need, 
beans and whole grains 
that don't have 
the animal fat in them. 
We’d have 
a healthier population, 
and we save some money 
in the bargain.
During a November 2009 
videoconference with 
Supreme Master 
Ching Hai
held in Washington DC, 
USA, she discussed 
how the US government 
can help its citizens 
live healthier lives 
and save our planet by 
prohibiting the production 
of all animal-based foods.
Meat causes 
hundreds of billions – 
hundreds of billions! – 
of US dollars in 
medical costs alone, and 
economic burdens on 
families and governments. 
Not to mention 
the pain and suffering 
of the families, of course,
unimaginably great 
and lifelong. 
And all the while, we are 
suffering illness, 
losing lives, grieving 
over lost loved ones, 
family members; 
losing happiness; 
losing money 
due to the animal diet. 
We are the ones who 
are paying the industry 
to continue producing 
this problem, producing 
meat, fish and the like, 
with our hard earned 
tax money that’s used 
to subsidize them. 
Ironic? 
The US government 
could, of course, redirect 
the billions of dollars 
now spent on 
livestock subsidies to 
help farmers switch to 
organic vegetable 
and fruit agriculture. 
That will be a great help 
to your country and the 
health of the Americans. 
The government could 
use these powerful tools to 
spread campaigns about 
veg alternatives, 
bans on meat, and laws 
to help people switch to 
organic, vegan farming 
and consumption. 
That is, we save 
US$32 trillion in 
climate mitigation costs, 
and having a healthy 
vegan population
is a good deal, 
good business deal 
in all positive aspects.
There is a very good 
reason for the American 
government to abolish 
meat, fish, eggs and dairy 
– all the animal products 
altogether. 
We must stop 
animal production now 
and at all cost if we 
want to keep this planet. 
I repeat: We must stop 
animal products right now 
and at all cost if we 
want to keep this planet.  
I have always looked to 
the American people and 
their great government 
leaders as one of the 
best living examples of 
democracy and freedom, 
integrity, of our world. 
However, 
I must tell you truthfully 
that the meat industry 
is unbefitting 
to the greatness of 
your country and of the 
great American citizen.
Don’t you agree, sir? 
Thank you. 
Great people deserve 
great things. 
Great people lead 
great lifestyles. 
So we have to do away 
with the un-great things 
and we have to 
begin the great things, 
for the great people, 
great country like America. 
I pray, sir, that the ones 
who are aware and 
want to save the children 
will do something 
about it, and fast, 
to stop this horrendous 
criminal system 
that is killing us and 
destroying our planet, 
and that we must not 
allow any longer. 
Thank you and God bless 
your faith in the Divine, 
in your leaders, 
and yourselves. 
God bless America! 
Dr. Neal Barnard, 
Ellen Jaffe Jones, 
and Dr. Pamela Popper, 
we deeply thank you for 
your valuable insights on 
how widespread adoption 
of a plant-based lifestyle 
can significantly reduce 
our grocery bills, prevent 
many types of illnesses, 
and materially reduce 
national healthcare costs.  
We truly admire 
the leadership each of you 
has demonstrated in 
the area of public health, 
and may you enjoy 
every success in all your 
future noble endeavors. 
We also deeply thank 
Supreme Master Ching Hai 
for promoting the wise, 
life-saving vegan solution.
For more information on 
today’s featured experts, 
please visit 
the following websites:
Dr. Neal Barnard
www.PCRM.org
Ellen Jaffe Jones 
www.VegCoach.com
Dr. Pamela Popper 
www.WellnessForum.com
Books by all three experts 
are available at 
www.Amazon.com
Perceptive viewers, 
thank you for joining us 
for this week’s episode of 
Healthy Living. 
May we soon live 
in a vegan world 
of great abundance, 
where all beings enjoy 
lasting wellness 
and happiness.