Welcome, 
energetic viewers, 
to this week’s 
Healthy Living featuring 
two vibrant fitness and 
nutrition experts 
who will discuss why 
the vegan diet is the best 
choice for those 
seeking to achieve peak 
athletic performance and 
life-long health, 
as well as the advantages 
of regular exercise. 
Vegan triathlete 
Brendan Brazier 
of Vancouver, Canada 
has been competing 
professionally since 1998, 
and in the past decade 
has achieved 
top 20 finishes 
in Ironman triathlons, 
non-stop competitions 
involving 
a 3.86-kilometer swim, 
a 180-kilometer bike ride 
and a 42-kilometer run.
Mr. Brazier is also the 
author of several books, 
including the best-seller 
“The Thrive Diet,” 
which introduces readers 
to the plant-based, 
whole-foods lifestyle. 
In addition he’s 
a popular speaker on 
exercise, nutrition, 
and the environmental 
benefits of the vegan diet, 
and has his own line 
of convenient, vegan 
meal-replacement 
products called Vega.
Lindsey Von Kleist 
is a vegan professional 
master fitness trainer 
at Xclusives Complete 
Fitness Center 
in Rancho Cucamonga, 
California, USA, who 
counsels clients on diet, 
daily exercise plans and 
wise lifestyle choices. 
Both Brendan and Lindsey 
see more and more 
athletes and fitness 
enthusiasts embracing 
the vegan diet because of 
its many benefits.
There are fortunately 
a lot more athletes 
who are starting to eat 
plant-based (foods). 
Vegan athletes are 
becoming less and less 
unique and 
within 10 to 15 years 
I think that will basically 
be the standard. 
I don’t think athletes 
will eat animal products 
anymore, not ones who 
want to be competitive. 
I really think 
that’s the way 
things are headed. 
And we will see records 
being broken too. 
Athletically we are going 
to continue to see better 
and better performances. 
And part of that is going 
to be attributed to 
their better nutrition. 
So I think it’s going to 
play a big role 
in the future of sport. 
I have a lot clients 
who are actually open to 
cutting out all meat, 
and then we just start 
on the dairy and 
I have some more, 
more open than others. 
But I have a lot of people 
really open to the idea. 
And they're actually 
really surprised, 
especially my clients 
who cut out red meat and 
poultry, that they feel 
so much better right away. 
I mean the results are 
pretty immediate 
how they feel, as soon as 
they're done cutting those 
out of their diet.  
They (athletes) are 
noticing better recovery 
times from eating more 
plant-based foods, 
which means they can 
schedule workouts closer 
together, which means 
they can train more, 
which means 
they improve faster. 
So there is some really 
good, base things that 
are helping athletes to 
improve performance. 
And reducing 
inflammation too 
by eating more 
alkaline-forming foods 
helps improves 
muscle functionality. 
And when muscle 
functionality goes up, 
inflammation goes down. 
When inflammation goes 
down your muscles are 
able to lift heavier weight 
and lifting heavier weight 
makes you stronger. 
So it doesn’t necessarily 
make you a better athlete 
but it does allow you 
to train harder, 
which is what makes you 
a better athlete. 
So it will pave the road 
basically to 
better athletic gains. 
And like I say, a lot of 
top-level athletes are 
experiencing this and 
realizing that 
more plant-based, whole 
foods are going to boost 
athletic performance, 
so that’s definitely 
happening.
Some people still 
mistakenly believe that 
vegans don’t get all the 
vitamins and minerals 
they need. 
This notion is based on 
myths and misinformation, 
since research has 
consistently shown that 
plant-based foods help 
improve one’s health 
and well-being.  
Do you find yourself 
coming up against 
the misconception that 
a vegan diet is weak 
in nutrients?  
Yes, very, very often. 
I try to keep a lot of 
literature here that 
supports not only 
the actual physiology 
that human anatomy, 
which would support 
a herbivore diet, 
a vegetarian diet, 
but also proof of other 
vegetarians and athletes, 
high- performance 
athletes that have stuck 
to very strict vegan diets 
and could out-perform 
any of us here in the gym.
I find a lot of times it's 
a misconception about, 
“Where do you get 
your protein from?" 
And I tell them 
a lot of times, 
not only plants are 
very rich in protein, but 
it's just more absorbable. 
So your common way 
of getting protein 
out of your meat, 
your meat might have 
a quote-unquote 
"higher ratio of protein," 
but how much of that 
is even being able to be 
absorbed, because 
our intestines are not 
really made to be able to 
absorb protein through 
the intestinal tract, 
through breaking down 
something as acidic as 
meat into the body.
You have 
the Silverback gorilla, 
who has 98.7% 
the same DNA as us. 
They are the strongest 
land mammal alive. 
They eat only plants’ 
protein, and imagine 
how big they get, and 
how muscular, and 
their digestive tracts 
and their physiological 
responses are 
the exact same as ours. 
So, if you are worried 
about getting strong 
enough, that should be 
your great example how 
you can take a mammal 
who is very similar to us, 
and have them 
be strong and muscular, 
and not eat a single piece 
of animal-based protein. 
Mr. Brazier is deeply 
concerned that people 
are fueling themselves 
with animal-based foods 
because of their 
artificially low prices, 
and thus severely 
damaging their health.
The resources that 
it takes to produce meat 
is huge. 
The oil, the land, 
all these things cost 
an incredible amount 
of money, so subsidies 
which come from 
taxpayers and 
the government is needed 
to prop-up 
the meat industry. 
And that’s why you can 
go to McDonald’s and 
buy a hamburger for
a dollar and 99 (cents). 
It should cost, if it’s 
a free-market system, 
about US$35 dollars, 
based on the oil
it takes to produce 
and all these things. 
We are inadvertently 
supporting that 
through our taxes, which 
is frustrating for a lot of 
people who don’t want to 
see that happen and…
And then of course 
we also subsidize 
the health care system. 
We make people sick by 
having the food so cheap 
because it’s subsidized 
and then they buy it 
and then they get sick, 
and now we have to 
bail them out by having 
a healthcare system. 
So we’re funding 
the cause of the problem, 
and then we’re funding 
a symptom-treating 
medical system.
Incorporating 
an exercise routine into 
one’s daily life 
is a smart move 
for many reasons. 
The respected US-based 
Mayo Clinic says that 
exercising helps 
prevent or manage 
chronic conditions 
such as heart disease and 
diabetes and also aids in 
controlling one’s weight 
and getting 
a good night’s sleep.
So when you exercise, 
you stimulate the 
right side of your brain, 
which is the creative side, 
and that helps 
creative thought flow. 
So the idea is to help 
turn that on, 
turn on creativity. 
And I also focus on 
not just the outcome 
of the exercise, 
but the process 
of exercising itself. 
It’s about trying to 
make it a lifestyle.
I like what I call 
"a realistic workout." 
I don't like to use 
a whole lot of machines, 
I will use some to help 
isolate muscles, but 
what I like to do is 
body weight, where 
you're lifting yourself up, 
you're pushing yourself 
down, you're doing 
squats and lunges 
and push-ups. 
My workouts consist of 
about a half-hour workout. 
I choose a body part, 
either an upper body 
or a lower body. 
I do cardiovascular 
(exercise) intervals 
in between, jumping jacks, 
or sometimes just jogging 
and play some jump rope, 
and then I have them 
do a set of core exercises 
and a lot of stretching. 
I'm really big on yoga 
and stretching to help 
get a lot of oxygen 
to the muscles and then 
I have them finish up 
with cardiovascular 
(exercises) on their own. 
And somebody who 
would be maybe nervous 
about working out, 
or doesn't think they can 
do it, these exercises are 
really cool, and
they're so useful, because 
they mimic things 
you would do in real life. 
You would go 
grocery shopping, you 
would lift this heavy bag 
of groceries, 
you would set it down, 
you would put 
the groceries away, 
so I do a lot of exercises 
that mimic bending and 
lifting, and pulling and 
pushing, things that 
make your body strong 
for real life, not just to 
show off your muscles 
at the beach, but 
to be utilized in daily life 
to make you healthier, 
help prevent injury and 
help prevent  disease 
forming in older age. 
What are some of 
the misconceptions about 
physical training that 
you come up against?  
Well, I get a lot of 
misconceptions that 
people think that 
they need to do a ton of 
cardiovascular exercise 
to lose weight, and 
actually, cardio can be 
a hindrance 
if you want to maintain 
long-term weight loss. 
What happens is the body 
can only burn fat 
in what's considered 
your target heart rate. 
For any one person, 
that would be the number 
220; they would minus 
their age, and 
that number you would 
want to do about 
75 to 80% of that, 
and that would be 
your target heart rate. 
Outside of that target 
heart rate, the body 
can no longer use fat 
as an oxygen source, and 
it'll start to cannibalize 
the muscles, taking out 
the oxygen and the water. 
So what happens 
a lot of times is people 
are running, and running 
and running, trying to 
get this weight off, 
and the body starts to 
cannibalize their muscles; 
muscles are what keeps 
fat off in the long run, 
so I really try to promote 
people coming in here 
and doing a lot, 
a lot of body weight, 
and then...
very minimal cardio, 
some nice brisk walks, 
some jogs. 
Once a week 
I take all my clients out 
on a five-mile hike, 
but the majority of them 
walk it and that’s more 
for the long duration. 
Our thanks go to 
Brendan Brazier and 
Lindsey Von Kleist for 
introducing us to their 
active, vegan lifestyles, 
and for providing us 
with wonderful advice 
on conditioning 
and wellness. 
May you both enjoy 
continued success 
in your careers and reach 
even more people 
with your constructive 
message about realizing 
optimal health 
and the wonders of 
the plant-based diet.
For more information 
on today’s guests, 
please visit 
the following websites
Lindsey Von Kleist
www.xclusivesfitness.com
Brendan Brazier 
www.BrendanBrazier.com
Books by Mr. Brazier 
are available at 
www.Amazon.com
His vegan food line 
is available at www.MyVega.com
Thank you 
spirited viewers 
for your company today 
on Healthy Living. 
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