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A Journey through
Aesthetic Realms will be
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Greetings
imaginative viewers.
Mr. Bernard Werber is
one of the most famous
science fiction authors
from France and
throughout the world.
He has fascinated readers
all over the world
with his writings on
science and spirituality,
philosophy, the animals
our co-inhabitants,
the origins of humankind,
and more.
He was a scientific
journalist for
Le Nouvel Observateur
and Eurêka,
the magazine of Europe’s
largest science museum,
the Cité des sciences et
de l’industrie in Paris.
He thus nurtured
his love for science.
In 1991 Bernard Werber
published his first novel,
“The Ants,” which sold
in 15 million copies
and was translated
into 35 languages.
Many of his other works,
including “The Ants”
trilogy, have become
international bestsellers.
Today, Mr. Werber
kindly shares with us
glimpses of
his universal philosophy
that helped to expand
countless readers’ minds.
Halo to Bernard Werber.
Halo.
One of the most
well-known, most read
writers, perhaps
one of the most read
French writers abroad.
A phenomenal success!
I’m seeing you
for the first time and
I see a person
who is always smiling,
who is always
in a good mood.
I fight against anxiety
by making myself smile.
That’s a good philosophy.
It seems that
when we smile you move
some zygomatic muscles
which send good waves
to the body.
Are you like this
when you’re writing?
I smile, I’m excited
and I say foolish things.
Yes, I’m exactly like this,
I’m the same
when writing.
You know, writing is
an act of pleasure.
I believe that if I don’t
feel joy while writing,
there won’t be any joy
in reading.
So, I do my best to enjoy it.
There is an aspect of
joyfulness in art
which is very important.
I think that art is
something light
and writing a novel
is entertainment.
At the same time
you also say
more profound things.
Bernard Werber’s
writing style is classified
a mixture of
science fiction, adventure,
philosophy and
other genres.
For him, science fiction
does not mean
robots and high tech;
it is an innovation of
the ideas and the values.
He often describes how
other beings or animals
see the human race
in other to provide
a more objective picture
of human evolution.
Tell us,
what role, what place
do the animals have
in your works?
The same place
they have on Earth,
namely partners,
co-inhabitants
on this planet who
offer us a different way
of thinking and
a different point of view.
How nice that
you’ve used the word
co-inhabitants.
What do you think about
the relationships that
we established between
humans and animals?
There is no dialogue,
There is no balance.
For the moment
we consider that
an animal is intelligent
if it imitates us.
It is in fact that they have
found ways to adapt to
their environment, ways
we haven’t found yet.
I think a lot of monkeys
have found solutions
to questions
we can’t even imagine.
So, the animals can teach
us things and we should
abolish the idea that
we know everything
and they know nothing.
Do you sometimes put
yourself in the position
of the animals?
Oh, yes!
For “The Ants”
I put myself in the place
of an ant, other than that,
I like different points
of view.
I am very interested in
other people’s view
of other cultures;
other forms of life.
I even ask myself
all the time
what do the trees think,
the plants, the Earth,
what does the Earth
think of us?
So what does the Earth
think of us?
I think that we are simply
parasites that swarm
on its surface and
this must make her itch
a little bit, and at times,
when we make
a lot of mess,
it makes her itch a lot.
What do the animals
think? About us?
They try to understand us.
They wonder why
we walk on two feet,
why we wear clothes,
why we make noise
and why we put
so much energy
into things other than
feeding ourselves.
In his book,
“The Thanatonauts,”
published in 1994,
Bernard Werber
speaks about
arriving upon Paradise
in first person singular,
so that every reader
could live this adventure
as their own discovery.
It was written
after studying various
religious scriptures and
mythologies in order to
find their shared roots.
This book was later
followed by “The Empire
of the Angels” that gives
the angels’ point of view
on human existence.
You look at
the evolution of the soul.
The evolution of the soul
goes through what?
We should first have
the desire to go forward.
I try to awaken this
desire through my books
by depicting characters
who go forward and thus
have a better life.
My heroes change and
I hope that my readers
will change as well,
by asking themselves
new questions and
by enlarging
their consciousness.
In order to enlarge
their consciousness,
I try to offer them
different points of view
such as the views of
animals and plants.
That’s great.
For his 2002 novel, “The
Tree of Possible Things,”
Bernard Werber invited
people on the Internet
to tell their visions
of the future of
the humanity.
Of course Mr. Werber
himself considered here
some of the major issues
of today – climate change,
the depletion of
natural resources,
illnesses caused by
overconsumption, etc.
Well, we do
a lot of programs
on the environment.
(You are right
in doing so.)
According to you, how
does ecology influence us,
or how do we influence it,
how can we untangle
all this?
Now, for me
the solution is to
stop consuming so much.
We should stop
being hypocritical,
we should think globally,
planetarily.
The mass consumption
you’ve mentioned…
There is data which
shows that one of the
most powerful polluters
is the meat industry.
As we already started to
talk about animals,
how could we understand
better that we are killing
our co-inhabitants?
Look, I’ve written a book
to make people
understand that
they were eating
anxious corpses and
this makes them anxious
as well.
It’s called
“Our Fathers’ Father.”
I hoped that people
would decrease
their meat consumption
after reading this book.
People, if we tell them,
that they should stop
driving their 4X4
because it makes a hole
in the ozone layer,
they would say:
“Well, that’s true, but
since everybody does it,
I’ll do it too.”
If we drive our 4X4 and
we eat meat three times
a day, as is the case,
we are just losing our
natural instincts
and we are disconnecting
ourselves from everything,
and from ourselves.
We need to go back
to nature, we need to
regain respect for nature.
We need to remind
ourselves that we are
living animals among
other living animals.
Keenly interested
in the realm
beyond the mundane,
Mr. Werber next shares
how he strives to connect
with both his inner
and outer worlds.
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The spiritual realms, the
paranormal phenomena
and the life beyond
are topics that shape
Mr. Bernard Werber
as a writer and
as a human being.
Mr. Werber’s
personal life is a quest of
the major questions
of the humanity.
He strives to reach
a balance, a harmony
with the world
around him.
Later, I’ll do my Tai Chi,
I’ll go back to nature,
I’ll try to touch a tree, I’ll
try to reconnect myself…
So tell us, how’s your life,
how is it related to nature?
The important word is life.
The important word is life.
But life is like love.
It’s been used so much,
we hardly remember
what it means.
Life is something that
will make a small plant
grow through the asphalt.
So, what does Tai Chi
bring to you?
It allows me to
disconnect myself
for five minutes from
the turmoil of this world
and to stop, to always
respond to others.
I just stop and focus
myself again.
I remind myself that
I am a living being.
Also I remind myself that
I am lucky to be alive,
and that I am connected
to all other forms of life
on Earth.
So, touching a tree
regenerates you as well.
It widens
one’s consciousness
in order to perceive
what a tree perceives or
what our planet perceives.
Is it true that you’ve
chosen to be vegetarian?
It’s more complicated
than that.
I didn’t make the decision
all of a sudden,
I didn’t tell myself,
“I will become
a vegetarian.”
I saw the slaughterhouses
and I said to myself that
eating corpses that have
suffered to such extent,
this is not me, it goes
against my integrity.
So, I greatly reduced
my meat consumption.
Now, the last time
I ate meat must have
been 4 or 5 months ago.
However, this being said,
progressively,
progressively
I reduce so much my
meat consumption that
when I eat some I feel
sleepy and I feel tired.
My whole digestive
system doesn’t know
how to digest meat.
I also try to avoid
more and more all
dairy products, like
butter, cream, animal fat,
because I feel that
my body doesn’t like it
anymore.
Now in this interview,
I can tell people that we
should choose lightness,
toward vegetarian fare,
but know that
there is a price to pay:
the price is that
when you go forward
you can’t go backwards
anymore.
The more conscious
you are,
the more sensitive
you become,
the less you can bear
dirty and unhealthy things.
So, be prepared for this.
And if I could mention
this, since you allow me
to discuss it, it’s not only
at the level of meat,
it’s at all levels.
If you live in
violent relationships,
in relationships of
domination or power,
you are in a state
of excitement that
might be pleasant and
that might suit you.
But if you want to get out
of it, you will not be able
to bear violence anymore,
you’ll be not be able to
bear heaviness or dirtiness
in spirit anymore.
And when there are
nervous, irritable people,
or people with
a bad atmosphere,
I don’t have other terms
for it, they make you
suffer more and
you can bear it less.
That’s the price to pay.
The cleaner you are
the less you can
bear dirtiness.
You see what I mean?
Truly so!
We are related to all
forms of life on Earth.
Thank you, Mr. Werber,
for sharing your time and
thoughtful views with us.
Through messages
such as yours, may
all humans rediscover
their true peaceful nature.
Bernard Werber’s
books are available at
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May we hear the inner
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