Today’s 
A Journey through 
Aesthetic Realms will be 
presented in French, 
with subtitles in Arabic, 
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Greetings
imaginative viewers.
Mr. Bernard Werber is 
one of the most famous 
science fiction authors 
from France and 
throughout the world.
He has fascinated readers 
all over the world 
with his writings on 
science and spirituality, 
philosophy, the animals 
our co-inhabitants, 
the origins of humankind, 
and more.
He was a scientific 
journalist for 
Le Nouvel Observateur 
and Eurêka, 
the magazine of Europe’s 
largest science museum, 
the Cité des sciences et 
de l’industrie in Paris. 
He thus nurtured 
his love for science.
In 1991 Bernard Werber 
published his first novel, 
“The Ants,” which sold 
in 15 million copies 
and was translated 
into 35 languages. 
Many of his other works, 
including “The Ants” 
trilogy, have become 
international bestsellers.
Today, Mr. Werber 
kindly shares with us 
glimpses of 
his universal philosophy 
that helped to expand 
countless readers’ minds.
Halo to Bernard Werber.
Halo.
One of the most 
well-known, most read 
writers, perhaps 
one of the most read
French writers abroad.
A phenomenal success!
I’m seeing you 
for the first time and
I see a person
who is always smiling,
who is always
in a good mood.
I fight against anxiety
by making myself smile.
That’s a good philosophy.
It seems that 
when we smile you move 
some zygomatic muscles 
which send good waves 
to the body.
Are you like this 
when you’re writing?
I smile, I’m excited 
and I say foolish things.
Yes, I’m exactly like this,
I’m the same 
when writing.
You know, writing is 
an act of pleasure.
I believe that if I don’t 
feel joy while writing,
there won’t be any joy 
in reading.
So, I do my best to enjoy it.
There is an aspect of 
joyfulness in art
which is very important.
I think that art is 
something light
and writing a novel
is entertainment.
At the same time 
you also say
more profound things.
Bernard Werber’s 
writing style is classified 
a mixture of 
science fiction, adventure, 
philosophy and 
other genres. 
For him, science fiction 
does not mean 
robots and high tech; 
it is an innovation of 
the ideas and the values. 
He often describes how 
other beings or animals 
see the human race 
in other to provide 
a more objective picture 
of human evolution.
Tell us, 
what role, what place 
do the animals have
in your works?
The same place 
they have on Earth,
namely partners,
co-inhabitants 
on this planet who 
offer us a different way 
of thinking and 
a different point of view.
How nice that 
you’ve used the word
co-inhabitants.
What do you think about 
the relationships that 
we established between
humans and animals?
There is no dialogue,
There is no balance.
For the moment 
we consider that 
an animal is intelligent 
if it imitates us.
It is in fact that they have 
found ways to adapt to 
their environment, ways 
we haven’t found yet.
I think a lot of monkeys 
have found solutions 
to questions 
we can’t even imagine.
So, the animals can teach 
us things and we should 
abolish the idea that 
we know everything 
and they know nothing.
Do you sometimes put 
yourself in the position 
of the animals?
Oh, yes! 
For “The Ants” 
I put myself in the place 
of an ant, other than that,
I like different points 
of view.
I am very interested in 
other people’s view 
of other cultures;
other forms of life.
I even ask myself 
all the time 
what do the trees think, 
the plants, the Earth, 
what does the Earth 
think of us?
So what does the Earth 
think of us?
I think that we are simply 
parasites that swarm
on its surface and 
this must make her itch 
a little bit, and at times,
when we make 
a lot of mess,
it makes her itch a lot.
What do the animals 
think? About us?
They try to understand us.
They wonder why 
we walk on two feet,
why we wear clothes,
why we make noise 
and why we put 
so much energy 
into things other than 
feeding ourselves.
In his book, 
“The Thanatonauts,” 
published in 1994, 
Bernard Werber 
speaks about 
arriving upon Paradise 
in first person singular, 
so that every reader 
could live this adventure 
as their own discovery. 
It was written 
after studying various 
religious scriptures and 
mythologies in order to 
find their shared roots. 
This book was later 
followed by “The Empire 
of the Angels” that gives 
the angels’ point of view 
on human existence. 
You look at 
the evolution of the soul.
The evolution of the soul 
goes through what?
We should first have
the desire to go forward.
I try to awaken this 
desire through my books
by depicting characters
who go forward and thus 
have a better life.
My heroes change and 
I hope that my readers 
will change as well,
by asking themselves 
new questions and 
by enlarging 
their consciousness.
In order to enlarge 
their consciousness,
I try to offer them 
different points of view
such as the views of 
animals and plants.
That’s great.
For his 2002 novel, “The 
Tree of Possible Things,” 
Bernard Werber invited 
people on the Internet 
to tell their visions 
of the future of 
the humanity. 
Of course Mr. Werber 
himself considered here 
some of the major issues 
of today – climate change, 
the depletion of 
natural resources, 
illnesses caused by 
overconsumption, etc. 
Well, we do
a lot of programs
on the environment. 
(You are right 
in doing so.)
According to you, how 
does ecology influence us,
or how do we influence it,
how can we untangle 
all this?
Now, for me 
the solution is to 
stop consuming so much.
We should stop 
being hypocritical,
we should think globally, 
planetarily.
The mass consumption
you’ve mentioned…
There is data which 
shows that one of the 
most powerful polluters
is the meat industry.
As we already started to 
talk about animals,
how could we understand 
better that we are killing 
our co-inhabitants?
Look, I’ve written a book 
to make people 
understand that 
they were eating 
anxious corpses and 
this makes them anxious 
as well.
It’s called 
“Our Fathers’ Father.”
I hoped that people 
would decrease 
their meat consumption
after reading this book.
People, if we tell them,
that they should stop 
driving their 4X4 
because it makes a hole 
in the ozone layer, 
they would say: 
“Well, that’s true, but 
since everybody does it, 
I’ll do it too.”
If we drive our 4X4 and 
we eat meat three times 
a day, as is the case,
we are just losing our 
natural instincts
and we are disconnecting 
ourselves from everything, 
and from ourselves.
We need to go back 
to nature, we need to 
regain respect for nature.
We need to remind 
ourselves that we are 
living animals among 
other living animals.
Keenly interested 
in the realm 
beyond the mundane, 
Mr. Werber next shares 
how he strives to connect 
with both his inner 
and outer worlds. 
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after these messages 
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Welcome back to 
A Journey through 
Aesthetic Realms 
on Supreme Master 
Television. 
The spiritual realms, the 
paranormal phenomena 
and the life beyond 
are topics that shape 
Mr. Bernard Werber 
as a writer and 
as a human being. 
Mr. Werber’s 
personal life is a quest of 
the major questions 
of the humanity. 
He strives to reach 
a balance, a harmony 
with the world 
around him.
Later, I’ll do my Tai Chi,
I’ll go back to nature,
I’ll try to touch a tree, I’ll 
try to reconnect myself…
So tell us, how’s your life,
how is it related to nature?
The important word is life.
The important word is life.
But life is like love.
It’s been used so much,
we hardly remember 
what it means.
Life is something that 
will make a small plant 
grow through the asphalt.
So, what does Tai Chi 
bring to you?
It allows me to 
disconnect myself 
for five minutes from 
the turmoil of this world
and to stop, to always 
respond to others.
I just stop and focus 
myself again.
I remind myself that 
I am a living being.
Also I remind myself  that 
I am lucky to be alive, 
and that I am connected 
to all other forms of life 
on Earth.
So, touching a tree 
regenerates you as well.
It widens 
one’s consciousness
in order to perceive 
what a tree perceives or 
what our planet perceives.
Is it true that you’ve 
chosen to be vegetarian?
It’s more complicated 
than that.
I didn’t make the decision 
all of a sudden,
I didn’t tell myself, 
“I will become 
a vegetarian.”
I saw the slaughterhouses 
and I said to myself that 
eating corpses that have 
suffered to such extent,
this is not me, it goes 
against my integrity.
So, I greatly reduced 
my meat consumption.
Now, the last time
I ate meat must have 
been 4 or 5 months ago.
However, this being said, 
progressively, 
progressively 
I reduce so much my 
meat consumption that 
when I eat some I feel 
sleepy and I feel tired.
My whole digestive 
system doesn’t know 
how to digest meat.
I also try to avoid 
more and more all 
dairy products, like 
butter, cream, animal fat,
because I feel that 
my body doesn’t like it 
anymore.
Now in this interview,
I can tell people that we 
should choose lightness,
toward vegetarian fare,
but know that 
there is a price to pay:
the price is that 
when you go forward
you can’t go backwards 
anymore.
The more conscious 
you are, 
the more sensitive 
you become,
the less you can bear 
dirty and unhealthy things.
So, be prepared for this.
And if I could mention 
this, since you allow me 
to discuss it, it’s not only 
at the level of meat,
it’s at all levels.
If you live in 
violent relationships,
in relationships of 
domination or power,
you are in a state 
of excitement that 
might be pleasant and 
that might suit you. 
But if you want to get out 
of it, you will not be able 
to bear violence anymore,
you’ll be not be able to 
bear heaviness or dirtiness 
in spirit anymore.
And when there are 
nervous, irritable people, 
or people with 
a bad atmosphere, 
I don’t have other terms 
for it, they make you 
suffer more and 
you can bear it less.
That’s the price to pay.
The cleaner you are
the less you can 
bear dirtiness.
You see what I mean?
Truly so!
We are related to all 
forms of life on Earth.
Thank you, Mr. Werber, 
for sharing your time and 
thoughtful views with us. 
Through messages 
such as yours, may 
all humans rediscover 
their true peaceful nature.
Bernard Werber’s 
books are available at 
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May we hear the inner 
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